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robtoe
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Data Coverage Issues - Parry Sound, ON

We've accessed data on Rogers devices about 30 mins from Parry Sound for years.    It wasn't exactly "city strength", but worked fine, and was even sufficient for rare video chats for work.

 

On the July long weekend, data stopped working.    I reset the phone, no change.   LTE continued to show as before.  A family friend arrived that weekend - also a Rogers customer - and confirmed no data.    I assumed a temporary outage.     My wife continued to have full data coverage from another carrier.

 

I attempted to report the outage, but was told that business support was not available.   I suggested this outage likely affects all customers, but the agent had nothing further to offer.

 

After getting 5 minutes away from the area, data returned, so it pretty much confirms a coverage issue.

 

I returned 2 weeks later, still no data.  Returned this past weekend, still no data, and I have a different phone.

 

It is an odd issue, in that I assume other people must be affected, even though it is a tiny town.    It's also frustrating that I've had solid data for years, only to never get it again.

 

Can someone suggest a means of reporting this?    Will Rogers even care about a coverage issue that likely affects only a handful of people?

 

 

 

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RogersMaude
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Re: Data Coverage Issues - Parry Sound, ON

Good day @robtoe,

 

Thank you for your contribution to the Rogers Community! We appreciate you took the time to bring this up to our attention. A poor cellular connection can certainly be upsetting, especially if trying to stay in touch with loved ones. 

 

If I understand correctly, since the beginning of July, your phone still shows LTE coverage but you no longer have access to data transmissions. Is that right?

 

Given the fact that you've already went through some troubleshooting you may reach out to us via private message so we can take a deeper look into this. For further assistance, please send us a private message at @CommunityHelps. You can find details about our private messaging in this blog.

 

RogersMaude

toolcubed
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Re: Data Coverage Issues - Parry Sound, ON

Where exactly?  Can you provide the name of the town, closest major intersection, etc?

robtoe
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Re: Data Coverage Issues - Parry Sound, ON

It's not on an outage map - seems very localized.

toolcubed
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Re: Data Coverage Issues - Parry Sound, ON

I wasn’t going to check an outage map 🙂 I’m going to check a 3rd party cell tower map which gets fed by data from ISED so that I can see where the closest Rogers tower/site is located. Just let me know the name of the town and/or closest major intersection.
robtoe
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Re: Data Coverage Issues - Parry Sound, ON

Ahmic Harbour.

 

toolcubed
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Re: Data Coverage Issues - Parry Sound, ON

There's a Rogers tower approx 4KM west of that location.  The tower is providing LTE service on two bands - 700MHz (low band) and 2100MHz (high band).  Low band will travel much farther and my assumption is that your Rogers device is connecting to the low band at Ahmic Harbour since 4KM is too far to receive an adequate high band signal.  The issue with the low band on this particular tower is that it's only operating on a 5MHz wide channel, so if there's congestion and/or if there's signal interference causing too much noise (low band signals are more susceptible and less tolerable to noise than high band signals), you will have problems with connectivity despite your device registering good reception.

 

By comparison, Bell also has a tower at the exact same location except that it's providing LTE service on three bands - 700MHz, 850MHz (both low band), and 1900MHz.  The Bell tower is also slightly taller than the Rogers tower.  It's hard to tell if a Bell/Telus device will perform any better...my guess is that it probably will but just speculation on my part given 1.) the tower's height advantage, 2.) it broadcasting on multiple low bands, and 3.) you saying that your wife had good connectivity from another carrier (assuming the other carrier is Bell, Telus, or one of their flanker brands - Koodo/Virgin).

robtoe
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Re: Data Coverage Issues - Parry Sound, ON

Thanks for this.   Yes, my wife is with Virgin, and they employ a different infrastructure.

 

Also considered congestion, especially on a July holiday weekend, but my data issue doesn't seem indicative of it.  I assume congestion symptoms would be highs, lows, brief outages, whereas I'm getting consistently close to zero.

 

By this I mean if I try to access the mobile Google homepage (which is lightweight example), it might take 45-60 minutes to load it, and a search from it is futile.     This is the same midweek, and every non-holiday weekend since July, at all times of the day.   

 

It's as if the tower was removed.

toolcubed
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Re: Data Coverage Issues - Parry Sound, ON

You would have to go into your device's service menu and look at which LTE band it's connected to, true signal strength (RSSI), SNR (signal-to-noise ratio), etc. to really understand what's going on.  I believe you said that you're still getting reception, correct?  Meaning you're seeing "LTE" along with one or more bars of service?  There are many places (I can name 5 off the top of my head) where coverage exists (i.e. there's reception...in some cases good reception) but where connectivity is basically non-existent, similar to what you're reporting.  And in those locations, it's due to bad SNR (too much noise) and/or high congestion (i.e. capacity issues).  Unfortunately, the number of "bars" you see on your phone does not tell the entire story of how good cellular connectivity is in any particular region.  Can you confirm whether or not you actually get LTE reception in that location?

 

Your wife being on Virgin means that her device is connected to the Bell network.

robtoe
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Re: Data Coverage Issues - Parry Sound, ON

Yes, there is LTE reception.    Rogers is in touch with me now, and has asked that I try a few different networks.    I tried a bit of that back in July, but will do more when I'm back on site.

 

Yep, was aware of Virgin using Bell's network.    Was using a mobile hotspot on my wife's phone to allow my phone to access some things - ouch.