06-16-2019
12:36 AM
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06-16-2019
12:19 PM
by
RogersMoin
I live on the Hamilton Mountain, and I just subscribed to Rogers from Bell. My Rogers speeds on Gigabit have never been more than 45-50mbs. Mostly, it's 10-24mbs. Rogers speed tests usually show 900mbs-1gbs, but speedof.me shows 300mbs. MY wifi shows no more than 37mbs-72mbs.
I got to the point of having a tech come out, and he did a bunch of speed tests and said there wasn't an issue. He said I will never get more than 50mbs with the 2.4ghz, and I would have to go on 5g. I tried that when he left, and same speeds... until it dropped. Now I'm going from no service, to 10-15mbs. Even Rogers speed test is showing 30mbs-57mbs now.
I'm at a loss... hoping for help here. Anyone else experiencing these issues in my area?
I will post this just in case... as I've seen it posted by others:
Port ID | Frequency (MHz) | Modulation | Signal strength (dBmV) | Channel ID | Signal noise ratio (dB) |
1 | 615000000 | 256QAM | 6.000 | 11 | 35.780 |
2 | 849000000 | 256QAM | 7.700 | 2 | 35.780 |
3 | 855000000 | 256QAM | 6.700 | 3 | 35.595 |
4 | 861000000 | 256QAM | 6.100 | 4 | 35.595 |
5 | 579000000 | 256QAM | 4.800 | 5 | 35.595 |
6 | 585000000 | 256QAM | 5.100 | 6 | 35.595 |
7 | 591000000 | 256QAM | 5.400 | 7 | 35.780 |
8 | 597000000 | 256QAM | 5.900 | 8 | 35.780 |
9 | 603000000 | 256QAM | 5.700 | 9 | 35.780 |
10 | 609000000 | 256QAM | 5.900 | 10 | 35.595 |
11 | 303000000 | 256QAM | -0.100 | 1 | 37.356 |
12 | 621000000 | 256QAM | 6.100 | 12 | 35.595 |
13 | 633000000 | 256QAM | 6.200 | 13 | 35.780 |
14 | 639000000 | 256QAM | 6.100 | 14 | 35.595 |
15 | 645000000 | 256QAM | 6.300 | 15 | 35.780 |
16 | 651000000 | 256QAM | 6.000 | 16 | 35.780 |
17 | 657000000 | 256QAM | 6.300 | 17 | 35.780 |
18 | 663000000 | 256QAM | 6.300 | 18 | 35.780 |
19 | 669000000 | 256QAM | 6.900 | 19 | 35.595 |
20 | 675000000 | 256QAM | 6.800 | 20 | 35.780 |
21 | 681000000 | 256QAM | 7.200 | 21 | 36.387 |
22 | 687000000 | 256QAM | 7.200 | 22 | 36.387 |
23 | 693000000 | 256QAM | 7.100 | 23 | 35.780 |
24 | 699000000 | 256QAM | 7.000 | 24 | 36.387 |
25 | 705000000 | 256QAM | 7.100 | 25 | 36.610 |
26 | 711000000 | 256QAM | 6.800 | 26 | 35.780 |
27 | 717000000 | 256QAM | 7.000 | 27 | 35.780 |
28 | 723000000 | 256QAM | 6.500 | 28 | 35.780 |
29 | 825000000 | 256QAM | 6.700 | 29 | 35.595 |
30 | 831000000 | 256QAM | 7.100 | 30 | 35.780 |
31 | 837000000 | 256QAM | 7.600 | 31 | 35.780 |
32 | 843000000 | 256QAM | 7.500 | 32 | 36.387 |
Receiver | FFT type | Subcarr 0 Frequency(MHz) | PLC locked | NCP locked | MDC1 locked | PLC power(dBmv) |
0 | NA | NA | NO | NO | NO | NA |
1 | 4K | 248600000 | YES | YES | YES | 1.299999 |
Port ID | Frequency (MHz) | Modulation | Signal strength (dBmV) | Channel ID | Bandwidth |
1 | 36996000 | ATDMA - 64QAM | 41.500 | 3 | 6400000 |
Channel Index | State | lin Digital Att | Digital Att | BW (sc's*fft) | Report Power | Report Power1_6 | FFT Size |
0 | DISABLED | 0.5000 | 0.0000 | 0.0000 | -inf | -1.0000 | 4K |
1 | DISABLED | 0.5000 | 0.0000 | 0.0000 | -inf | -1.0000 | 4K |
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06-16-2019 01:48 AM - edited 06-16-2019 01:52 AM
@ToxikRick call tech support and ask the Customer Service Rep to run a signal check on your modem. Your modem data only shows one upstream channel running. That can be seen in the Upstream Overview section. I'm assuming that you copied that entire table from top to bottom in one copy and paste session, in which case there should be three upstream channels running instead of just one. That single channel upstream operation would explain the slow data rates. Check the Upstream Overview prior to calling and assuming that you still have one upstream channel running, also advise the Customer Service Rep that there is only one upstream channel in operation.
That signal check should fail automatically, followed by a conversation with the CSR to arrange for a tech visit at your convenience. If the previous tech saw the single channel in operation and didn't do anything about it, I'd be surprised and rather disappointed, to put it politely. The upstream signal power isn't very high which is rather odd. Typically these single channel occurrences are accompanied with external cable problems, which result in low downstream signal levels, high upstream power outputs and upstream channel shutdowns to keep the modem running in a single channel mode, allowing it to communicate with the Cable Modem Termination System (CMTS). So, your downstream and upstream power levels don't reflect any problems with the external cable or connectors, but, the single channel mode points in that direction. Its a rather odd case.
Didn't Rogers buy out Shaw in your area? Don't remember the details on that one. That might mean that there are technical issues which are still to be resolved. That might be part of the explanation for single channel ops, but, I doubt it. This might be just a run of the mill cable/connector problem.
Note that a modem reboot will temporarily resolve issues such as this, but it won't resolve the underlying problem. That requires the services of a tech. A reboot will temporarily return the data rates to a normal range, but, within a short period of time, you'll be back to slow data rates when the cable signal levels degrade once again.
As for the wifi rates, have a look at the following post, specifically the wifi settings and applications to check out whom you're competing with for usable wifi channels. It might just be that low data rates on a 2.4 Ghz wifi network are the norm for your location, given all of the other modems and router running nearby. If that's the case, its time to look to moving to the 5 Ghz band.
https://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/Internet/slow-wifi/m-p/429489#M54216
06-18-2019 11:24 AM
So I had a second tech come out. Apparently, in this area (used to be Source), I will only get one upstream... for now. They also said that because I am getting 900mbs-1gb on the rogers and fast.com speed tests (sometimes 600mbs), I am getting the service. I showed him my attempt to download something and only getting 40mbs (it hit 80mbs for a few seconds) on a wired connection.
This tech was pretty honest about the struggle from Source to Rogers, and I appreciated that a lot. I'm not thrilled about my speeds, but I figure I'll give them the year on my promotional price, and if it isn't better by then; back to Bell or someone else. Thank you for the help!
06-18-2019 11:51 AM - edited 06-18-2019 12:02 PM
@ToxikRick did the tech give you any estimate on when or even if dual or triple channel upstream would be available?
Is Bell fibre available at your location? If so, that's worth considering.
Regarding the wifi data rates, thats a combination of a number of factors which include:
1. The number of wifi antenna on the mobile devices and what data rates the wifi adapters will run. That information isn't clearly stated by the device manufacturers and as a result, you have to do some digging to find the specs that state the number of antenna in use and the supported data rates of the wifi adapter:
2. The wifi settings on the modem or router; and
3. The local competition from your neighbours.
At the end of the day, given the mobile devices that you have on hand, the best that you can do is to optimize the wifi settings as indicated in the post that I mentioned and take a careful look at the number of wifi devices that are running nearby. Even with the knowledge of the other nearby networks, if you're in a crowded wifi environment like I am you end up deciding to live with the results that you get over a 2.4 Ghz network, or, you abandon ship and move everything that you can up into a 5 Ghz network. Thats basically what I've done. Anything that really counts is running on ethernet or a 5 Ghz network, leaving behind any 2.4 Ghz devices that can't move as the manufacturer was too cheap to build in 5 Ghz wifi capability. Too bad, as I'd really prefer to shut down the 2.4 Ghz network once and for all.
06-20-2019 07:09 PM
06-21-2019 07:01 PM
Hey @Rajandra!
Welcome to the community!
Sorry to hear you're having slow network connection issues as well! Feel free to share you're experience with us and we'll be happy to help!
07-28-2019
03:37 PM
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07-28-2019
03:43 PM
by
RogersMoin
Ignite Internet 1G speed degraded: Newmarket, Ontario
I have a 1Gig connection which never ever reached anything close to even 800Mbps but when speeds drop to below 50Mbps, it becomes a bit concerning that a service could drop by over 95% in performance with no one noticing at Rogers...
I typically don't mind as some days are good for what I need when working from home and operating at around 150Mbps to 200Mbps but today is yet another day of internet performance degradation...
07-29-2019 02:27 AM
@Ehrich can you log into your modem, navigate to the STATUS .... DOCSIS WAN tab, copy the Downstream Overview table, all the way down to the bottom right hand corner of the OFDM/OFDMA Overview section and paste that into a post. Ignore the data that sits above the Downstream Overview title, as that data is specific to the modem. Hopefully the signal data will shed some light on the slow speeds that your're experiencing.
08-30-2019
05:07 PM
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08-30-2019
05:15 PM
by
RogersAndy
08-31-2019 01:59 AM
@Jeffsttop you probably have an ongoing external cable and/or connector issue. You don't have to run a factory reset to solve this. Simply unplug the modem from the wall socket, wait for about 15 seconds and plug it back in to force a restart/reboot. That reboot should temporarily resolve the issue but it won't solve the underlying cable issue. So, see if the restart/reboot has the same effect as the factory reset. It should.
The next time that you're seeing slow data rates don't do anything to the modem. Call tech support and ask the Customer Service Rep to run a signal check on the modem. See if that passes or not. My guess is "not". Also let the CSR know that you've had to run a factory reset or restart to get the modem back into operation. There's always the chance that the modem itself is at fault, but, the modems are pretty reliable and the external cables don't last forever, requiring replacement after years of service.
If you have time at some point, when the modem is running slow, log into the modem and navigate to the STATUS ... DOCSIS WAN tab. Select or highlight the Downstream Overview table, all the way to teh very bottom of the bottom OFDM/OFDMA section. Right click .... COPY. Then paste that into a post right click .... paste. That entire table should paste into the post, just like a part of a word or text document. Ignore the data that resides above the Downstream Overview title. My guess is that you might be down to a single or dual Upstream channel which will slow your data rates down considerably.