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No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out

Lodar
I've been here awhile

Hi all, I've been researching this problem for the last few weeks, and notice many people have similar issues. I have a tech come over a week from now, and want to make sure I ask all the right questions and have him/her check everything they should.

My internet has been intermittent since I moved to Brantford, ON in August 2018. Have had my Hitron replaced 3 times. So I highly doubt it's the modem. My LAN has also been up constantly, but my WAN drops a significant amount per day for about 20-30sec (as many as 15 times a day).

Here is my data. If anyone could help me prepare for when the tech comes, that would be great!!

 

1 04/07/2019 10:37:19 82000300 critical

Ranging Request Retries exhausted

 

2 04/07/2019 10:37:19 82000600 critical Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;

etc

 

Downstream Overview
Port ID Frequency (MHz) Modulation Signal strength (dBmV) Channel ID Signal noise ratio (dB)
1 633000000 256QAM -0.700 13 36.387
2 849000000 256QAM 1.000 2 35.780
3 855000000 256QAM 1.200 3 35.595
4 861000000 256QAM 1.000 4 35.595
5 579000000 256QAM -1.200 5 36.387
6 585000000 256QAM -1.100 6 35.780
7 591000000 256QAM -1.100 7 35.780
8 597000000 256QAM -1.100 8 35.780
9 603000000 256QAM -0.900 9 35.780
10 609000000 256QAM -0.600 10 36.387
11 615000000 256QAM -0.600 11 36.610
12 621000000 256QAM -0.600 12 36.610
13 303000000 256QAM -3.500 1 37.636
14 639000000 256QAM -0.600 14 36.387
15 645000000 256QAM 0.000 15 36.387
16 651000000 256QAM 0.300 16 37.356
17 657000000 256QAM 0.200 17 36.610
18 663000000 256QAM 0.300 18 36.610
19 669000000 256QAM 0.300 19 36.610
20 675000000 256QAM 0.300 20 36.387
21 681000000 256QAM 0.200 21 36.610
22 687000000 256QAM 0.300 22 36.610
23 693000000 256QAM 0.200 23 36.610
24 699000000 256QAM 0.300 24 36.387
25 705000000 256QAM -0.300 25 36.610
26 711000000 256QAM -0.300 26 36.387
27 717000000 256QAM -0.300 27 36.387
28 723000000 256QAM -0.400 28 35.780
29 825000000 256QAM 1.900 29 36.610
30 831000000 256QAM 1.600 30 36.387
31 837000000 256QAM 1.200 31 35.595
32 843000000 256QAM 1.000 32 35.780
OFDM Downstream Overview
Receiver FFT type Subcarr 0 Frequency(MHz) PLC locked NCP locked MDC1 locked PLC power(dBmv)
0 NA NA NO NO NO NA
1 4K 275600000 YES YES YES -1.700001
Upstream Overview
Port ID Frequency (MHz) Modulation Signal strength (dBmV) Channel ID Bandwidth
1 30596000 ATDMA - 64QAM 38.500 1 6400000
2 38595824 ATDMA - 64QAM 43.250 3 3200000
3 23700000 ATDMA - 64QAM 38.500 2 6400000
OFDM/OFDMA Overview
Channel Index State lin Digital Att Digital Att BW (sc's*fft) Report Power Report Power1_6 FFT Size
0 DISABLED 0.5000 0.0000 0.0000 -inf -1.0000 4K
1 DISABLED 0.5000 0.0000 0.0000 -inf -1.0000 4K
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Re: No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out

RLMS
I plan to stick around

Running a ping test of 3600 pings to the CTMS resulted in only 2 packets lost, and to the DNS there were 0 packets lost.  The minimum ping to the CTMS was 3ms with a max of 98ms and an average of 9ms, and to the DNS it was min 2ms, max 41ms, avg 8ms, but if I understand the part about timing you mentioned the firmware update means that the ping times displayed aren't necessarily accurate. 

It is odd as we definitely have had issues with even light internet usage i.e. video streaming via Youtube, Netflix, Amazon Prime TV and other apps that pause and buffer frequently, so I'd assume it is an issue with our internet and not the apps, but based on the results of those tests I guess it would imply we don't have any issues in regards to the cabling.  That likely means that any issues we are experiencing are due to external factors and likely related to what others have been discussing since around January if I'm understanding everything correctly.  The only thing I can think of that might be affecting the tests is that I had to reset the modem the day before running them to access the DOCSIS WAN information, so the soft reset may have helped mask the issue, but I know we haven't seen packet loss in tests even when run at the same time that we are experiencing the buffering/disconnection issues.

In the meantime I'll see if I can get any information on the OFDM channel health in case it might point to some issue.

Re: No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out

lowrob
I've been around
Been following this thread, have you found or done anything that made this better?

Re: No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out

mascf1
I'm a reliable contributor

I'm seeing the same issues with the 7.1.1.33 software for the 4582U modem.  Modem keeps losing connection to the internet for a few seconds repeatedly after roughly 1 week and you can't ping the modem's 192.168.100.1 or access its browser interface.  After rebooting the modem it's back to normal for another week.  I suspect this is a firmware issue causing a memory leak.  I'm also seeing the No Ranging T3 timeout critical error in the logs. 

Re: No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out

mart0091
I plan to stick around

May be a bit of a dead thread...
BUT...
Check the times of the disconnects...
Are they always the same time?  half hour apart by a fraction of a second? (Had this problem back in 2008, 2012... was told it was my hardware over and over.. but, with my experience supporting US customers, I knew it was a backend issue (Rogers just updated the "service" in the neighbourhood with new packages, higher fees, but, no backbone to support it) (5 months... later had 8 months of the same))

Other issues that may cause a hit: heavy load on the same power circuit (ie: deep freezer starting up... that was an issue when I was on the Bell network recently... changed power plugin location and, the connection improved)

I'm currently having similar issues.. I'm on a reseller using the Roger's connections... and, yah, it's been bad... the cabling in this neighbourhood is 48 years old. (1975)

Re: No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out

GypsyJR
I've been here awhile
So what you are saying is the issues I'm having in January 2024 is from an issue with a firmware issue from 4 years ago? Had service with Rogers since February 2023 and this is the second Hitron they gave us. Now they say that they don't support the Hitron and are forcing us to move to Ignite. Sounds like they actually stopped supporting it after that firmware update 4 years ago. Kind of like the SRT being 10 years past its service life before it derailed and hurt a bunch of people. Minus the injuries of urse. Rogers just gets greedier and greedily. Same exact issue but no luck getting it back up and running without support.
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