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Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

DrMike
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I switched over to Ignite many months ago and have the Rogers 500u plan. I have my main computers (2) connected by ethernet and other devices (laptops etc) via WiFi  including many smart home bulbs and hubs etc. When I set up the system I checked the WiFi signal strength all over my house and it was VERY strong, so much so that I removed my ASUS router and used the Ignite Modem in Gateway mode.

 

The system has been functioning very well for months and months.

 

Until a few weeks ago when we started noticing freeze-ups in my TV.  in some recent incidents, the picture would freeze for a few seconds and that was followed by the TV going totally black for a few seconds (10-15 seconds) then all would resume. Alternately, the TV would just go black all of a sudden and then resume in 10-15 seconds (i.e. no picture freeze per se.

 

I started to wonder if it might actually be my TV (unlikely - it is high end and relatively new) but now we are seeing interruptions in Internet service as well. Zooms and other connections are also now failing for short times at intermittent intervals. The disruptions are getting more frequent and more annoying, and sooner or later it is going  to crash some really important meeting and I can not abide that.

 

Not sure if I should be calling a tech person (I know how futile that can usually be) or if there is some fairly straightforward troubleshooting I can do on my own.

 

I am paying for a premium package that has worked very well, but it is now routinely failing me on too many occasions throughout the day. And it all started a few weeks ago, yet really there have been no changes at my end re: connections, equipment, setup etc.

 

Ideas?

 

 

 

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Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

mascf1
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I was getting daily disconnections after Ignite was installed and the next tech that came fully disconnected all the unused jacks in my condo and checked the signal strength to the modem, then said the signal was too high and installed a 3dB attenuator on the modem.  These are the current stats wth the attenuator connected.

Are these good levels or should they be between 36-40db for optimal performance?

 

IndexLock StatusFrequencySNRPower LevelModulation
Downstream
Channel Bonding Value
23
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693 MHz
279 MHz
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855 MHz
861 MHz
579 MHz
585 MHz
591 MHz
597 MHz
603 MHz
609 MHz
615 MHz
621 MHz
633 MHz
639 MHz
645 MHz
651 MHz
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663 MHz
669 MHz
675 MHz
681 MHz
687 MHz
699 MHz
705 MHz
711 MHz
717 MHz
723 MHz
825 MHz
831 MHz
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843 MHz
350 MHz
275600000
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41.0 dB
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41.5 dB
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NA
4.8 dBmV
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4.9 dBmV
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7.6 dBmV
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1.5 dBmV
NA
256 QAM
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256 QAM
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OFDM
OFDM
IndexLock StatusFrequencySymbol RatePower LevelModulationChannel Type
Upstream
Channel Bonding Value
1
2
3
4
Locked
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Locked
21 MHz
25 MHz
32 MHz
38 MHz
2560
5120
5120
5120
42.3 dBmV
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TDMA_AND_ATDMA
ATDMA
ATDMA
ATDMA
 

 

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

-G-
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@mascf1  Those signal levels are good, and disconnecting the unused coax outlets was also the right thing to do.

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

mascf1
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Sadly this hasn’t fixed the issue and the modem is still losing connection and rebooting itself. This has been happening every day this week and I’m fed up with Rogers!

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

-G-
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@mascf1 wrote:
Sadly this hasn’t fixed the issue and the modem is still losing connection and rebooting itself. This has been happening every day this week and I’m fed up with Rogers!

You currently have strong (but not too strong) Downstream power levels and good SNR stats, and normal upstream power levels.

 

Are you currently using your own router, with Bridge Mode enabled on your Ignite gateway?  (Totally fine if you are.  In this this config, there are fewer things running on the Ignite gateway that could trigger a reboot.)

 

I would also plug the Ignite gateway directly into wall power, not into a power bar, to see of that improves stability.  (Unless you have really noisy/unclean wall power, which could also cause all sorts of weird issues.)

 

Otherwise, I don't think that there is much more that you can do.  Even with good signal levels to your modem, there are still things at the DOCSIS level that could trigger a DOCSIS WAN reset or cause the modem to reboot.  Sure, the Ignite gateways can be twitchy, but in the 2+ years that I have been an Ignite TV customer, my XB6's Internet connection has always been solid.

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

mdallen
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My Ignite Internet connection has been unstable since Sunday.  It has been dropping several times an hour.  The Tech team has been out (Monday) once and verified there were no signal noise issues in the house.  Modem Replaced on Monday with no change to the service drops.  My tech appointment today was between 10 AM and noon and as of 12:30 they are a no show and no call.  On hold with call   in support now for 30 minutes.  This is beyond frustrating.  We were pushed from the Legacy internet service several months ago for this exact issue.  Service  dropping .  Ignite has not solved the issues and in fact have made it worse as with no Internet No TV, at least before  the TV and Internet were separate.  Any ideas??

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

-G-
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@mdallen  Ignite Internet is the same as Rogers legacy Internet, just with a different modem.  Switching to Ignite Internet will not make existing, long-term problems go away.

 

I don't know why your Internet service is constantly dropping.  If you post your modem's signal levels and error stats (log into your Ignite gateway and go to Gateway > Connection > Rogers Network) we can confirm whether or not they are withing spec, but Rogers is also fully capable of confirming that as well, and more.  If it is a signal-related issue, problems with DOCSIS channels dropping, or some interoperability issue between the modem and CMTS, only Rogers can troubleshoot and fix that.

 

You can also send a private message to @CommunityHelps  and ask them for a second opinion.  They are a great group of people and have helped many with getting the right teams within Rogers engaged to investigate and resolve complex issues.

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

mdallen
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What is the best way to copy the logs so you can see them?

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

-G-
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@mdallen wrote:

What is the best way to copy the logs so you can see them?


https://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/Community-Lounge/posting-data-from-modem-how/m-p/485734

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

mdallen
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IndexLock StatusFrequencySNRPower LevelModulation
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585 MHz
591 MHz
597 MHz
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615 MHz
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639 MHz
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681 MHz
687 MHz
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-3.3 dBmV
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OFDM
 

 

IndexLock StatusFrequencySymbol RatePower LevelModulationChannel Type
Upstream
Channel Bonding Value
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21 MHz
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32 MHz
38 MHz
4 MHz
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0
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435000.0 dBmV
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QAM
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C

 

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

@mdallen can you copy and post the error stats as well.

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

-G-
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@mdallen  Your Downstream power levels are on the low side on some channels but they are still technically within the allowable range, at least as far as Rogers is concerned.  If you are getting a ton of Uncorrectable Codewords errors, especially on the downstream OFDM channel, then that is not good, and Rogers would need to send a senior tech (and possibly a maintenance crew) to investigate further.

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

mdallen
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Like these:

IndexUnerrored CodewordsCorrectable CodewordsUncorrectable Codewords

CM Error Codewords
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662379428
833493859
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8073
7993
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8416
8141
8089
8773
8907
7409
9323
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8916
445626122
IndexUnerrored CodewordsCorrectable CodewordsUncorrectable Codewords
 
1
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662379428
833493859
833730474
833857604
833995217
834117533
834260584
834402900
834538134
834680382
834892840
834932988
835003081
835225590
835370635
835515842
835651924
835801230
835953327
836097759
837242415
837388733
837533881
837667560
837809703
837951466
838123031
838284296
838450369
870151419
870389289
870373815
662379428
445626122
53723
6590
6639
6132
12889
12408
11510
11132
10670
10416
9590
9390
8910
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8361
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8292
8073
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8141
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7409
9323
8594
8916
445626122
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2311
6209
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5235
4902
4739
3923
3669
3221
3248
3145
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2784
2950
2893
2787
2968
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2948
3154
3364
3195
2546
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9710
11532
416281
416281
45620
2443
2120
2311

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

-G-
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@mdallen Yeah, that's bad.  Very bad.  Your connection is definitely not healthy.  I would definitely contact @CommunityHelps  for assistance.

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

Depending on how long the modem has been running, you could have a cable noise problem.  If the modem has only been running for a short period of time, an hour or two maybe, you definitely have a noise problem.

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

mdallen
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Thanks I will let them know.  Will this help when the next tech arrives?

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

-G-
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@mdallen  Further to what @Datalink  said, it could be a noise issue.  It could also be due to something as simple as a bad coax patch cable.  It could also be a problem with the Rogers line going into your home.  Regardless, if those error counts continue to increase, that's not good.

 

Before rebooting your Ignite gateway, I would also give Rogers an opportunity to troubleshoot and look at your modem's logs.

 

When you do reboot your gateway, I would power cycle it.  If you have your gateway plugged into a power bar, when you unplug it, I would plug it back in directly into a wall outlet, and unplug that power bar completely.  (If the power bar has gone bad, it could leak noise and cause all sorts of problems.

Re: Rogers Ignite - Internet and TV losing connection several times per day

mdallen
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So the Tech just left. - There was a Noise filer on the Line at the Cable Box for the neighborhood.  Tech felt that was not the correct place.  When the filter was removed service level went too hi in the house so a filter was laced at the Modem.  Fingers crossed.  One other issue that came up was the techs are not updating their logs for all service calls as there was no entry for the work done here on Monday.  Bizarre way to diagnose issues!  For now the Uncorrectable Codewords are back to Zero from the large numbers that existed.  I will keep an eye on that.  Thanks for the insights.  I may have learnt more about Rogers today than I really wanted but I guess we are on our own.

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