05-07-2022 09:41 PM - last edited on 05-07-2022 10:21 PM by RogersMoin
I'm an existing Rogers customer, maybe for 10+ years so we got the switch over to Rogers Ignite quite late (about a month ago). Switched from the legacy modem and red tv-box to the XB7 White Modem Router and the Tiny Black Wifi TV Box.
Right after the switch in the hardware, we also switched from the 200down to 500down plan. The new speeds were incredible and worked as advertised, minus the stability. The old modem router rarely pooped itself, but after switching to the new one we've had disconnects and high ping spikes on all devices in the household, both wired and unwired.
At that time we called Rogers Tech Support, they inspected the line coming into our home and said it was old and outdated, so they changed our line immediately on the outside the same day (it was real fast). Then they checked our signal using a measurement device and said it was low, and that there was some work being done in the neighborhood. Okay, that was reasonable so I adhered to the tech support's advice by waiting out 10 days until that "fix" was done. I checked every day on the rogers tech support website via the Chat Agent named "Anna"; Anna told me daily that I wasn't the only one experiencing these technical issues and that I should wait and check back later for my issues to be resolved. After like 2.5 weeks (way more than 10 days by the way) it was finally resolved according to Anna, was it resolved? Not at all. So we call in tech support again to replace our modem router just in case. They did it as per request and scratched their heads because our signals were "fine". This was like 3 tech support visits in with 0 solutions, I don't really blame them cause they only know what they're trained. But from a customer standpoint, I can't attend my remote work calls without being dropped, my TV freezes all the time, my family's phone connection drops. Really frustrated, and nobody can solve our problems.
Anybody here have similar issues? and perhaps solutions?
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03-28-2023 12:03 PM
Good afternoon @nugpot!
We'd be happy to take a closer look into the history of your account and run some additional tests to see if we can determine exactly what's going on with your connection.
Feel free to send a private message to @CommunityHelps so we can assist you further. For more information on how our Private Messaging system works, you can find out more here.
Regards,
RogersCorey
03-29-2023 12:16 PM
Hi,
sent a pm. Just need to know what details you need in that convo
04-02-2023 10:33 PM
I have been running into the same issue since Mar 11. It's still not fixed.
Every 2-10mins, the internet connection disconnects and reconnects.
To be clear:
(1) not WIFI issue. Wired connected devices have the same issue
(2) some sample data:
ping count with more than 100 ms time to min.
21 21:54
21 21:56
26 22:00
26 22:03
22 22:05
23 22:07
23 22:09
27 22:18
21 22:27
04-28-2023 05:58 PM
It took a month but I believe my issue is finally solved. It appears the issue was the cable between 2 boxes on the street (the one in front of my house and the one before it). A temporary cable was put in place on Sunday and no issues for far. Nice to have a stable connection for once. Thanks to the actual Rogers Techs who figured out the issue.
05-19-2023 06:07 PM
From March 8 until May 17 we had NO disconnects, only a few frozen screens that resumed after a few seconds of the thing spinning around, but NO disconnects. Yahoo! We had a good run from March 8 until yesterday, May 18; however, in fairness, Rogers posted signs in our neighbourhood advising that over the next week they would be replacing equipment and we would be experiencing interruptions between 8-4. Yesterday there were about 20 disconnects and the voice control on all three TV remotes was no longer working, but the disconnects didn't last long. Today was okay until the afternoon, and the WiFi was down for sometime but came back at 5:55pm, But the TVs are back and the voice control is now working again. Not sure how much more we will incur over the week; however, if at the end having new equipment improves overall service, I'm for it. It scare us those that this being a long-weekend (Victoria holiday) that we had no TV for hours today, but hopefully it will stay up for the weekend. I think it's a good sign Rogers is investing in new equipment, and the disconnects prior to yesterday didn't occur for the past 10 weeks!
06-09-2023 01:29 PM
No signage, notice or warnings today, but our neighbourhood was down from 10:08 a.m. to 1:19 p.m., no phone, nor Internet nor TV. Frustrating as today is my sister's birthday and I kept trying to call her but the phone would not work. So this time we went 22 days without issue.
06-09-2023 03:22 PM
@DayPol wrote: ...no phone, nor Internet nor TV....
I assume you mean home phone? If it's important to have access to phone service in an emergency, to keep in touch, or power failure, it's a good idea to have a cell phone for that purpose. One can purchase an older phone for very little, get one from a friend or relative for free, and use a pre-paid plan that costs say $10/month for the occasional call or text.
09-04-2023 01:41 PM
09-06-2023 01:41 PM - edited 09-06-2023 04:45 PM
Greetings @CK52! Congrats on your first post with us! 😊 Thanks for bringing this up to our much needed attention. I know first hand how important it is to ensure you stay connected. We're saddened to hear that this has been your experience since you've migrated over.
Have you had the chance to connect with us to get this issue resolved since you've last posted?
When the connection is interrupted, how long does it take for the modem to come back online?
Is the issue on WiFi or a direct Ethernet connection and do all devices go down at the same time?
In the event that the issue is still persisting, feel free to send a private message to @CommunityHelps so we can assist you further. For more information on how our Private Messaging system works, you can find out more here.
Regards,
RogersJo
10-28-2023 09:10 AM
10-28-2023 12:56 PM
@KEC it sounds like you have underground wiring with a pedestal located within your yard. Your cabling might need replacement, once again. There's no predicting how long the cables with last, either underground or overhead. The pedestal at the back of the yard holds a local tap, which provides cable service to you and your immediate neighbours. That local tap might need replacing, or the cable that runs from the local tap to the neighbourhood node might need replacing or servicing.
The logical starting point is to replace the underground cable to the local tap and its connectors. From there, the techs have to look upstream to determine what the problem is, and, replace components and cables as required. That takes time, a Senior Tech (real Rogers tech, not a contractor) and possibly a maintenance crew.
The starting point is to have a look at your signal levels. When you're logged into the forum, follow this link to the @CommunityHelps page. On the right is a link to Send a Private Message. Follow that link to the message composition page. The address will fill in automatically. Fill in the subject line and details. Include your account number so that the moderators can find your modem. When done, hit Send.
When you're logged into the forum, have a look for a number, overlaying the envelope symbol in the upper right hand corner, indicating an inbound message. Follow that link down to the message inbox to see the response. You can respond to the moderators message as required.
01-04-2024 02:49 PM
I have started having issues with Ignite disconnecting on a high speed newer laptop. Numerous people told me I have fibre to house, this week another person it was older cable...TV seems ok when on at same time.
01-04-2024 10:25 PM
Having the same problem. They changed my modem and did something to line outside. It's been over a month with no resolution. Spoke to my neighbor who is also having the same problem. I think all their good techs are working on the Shaw conversion. They also pressured us to sign up for 2 years just before this issue. Im located in Mississauga.
01-06-2024 02:49 PM
We're saddened to hear about the issues you've both been plagued with. We know how impertaive it is to ensure you stay connected. @MLRC, is the issure you're experiencing, soley occuring on the newer laptop? Or are any other devices impacted as well? Are you connected via WiFi or Ethernet when this occurs?
@shushee, we'd love the opportunity to take a further look into this for you. Feel free to send a private message to @CommunityHelps so we can assist you further. For more information on how our Private Messaging system works, you can find out more here.
Looking forward to hear from you both!
RogersJo
01-07-2024 06:07 PM
So around this time last year we had huge issues with intermittent dropping. Many visits to no avail until an actual Rogers tech came out and found a problem with a buried cable downstream from our house. Once this was fixed we had rock solid connectivity until this last week when we started having wifi issues and extremely slow d/l speeds. A tech (contractor) came out yesterday and under duress replaced the gateway. We are still seeing huge disparities in the dl/d speeds. I don't think in one we should quite so many correctable codewords errors.
Channel IDUnerrored CodewordsCorrectable CodewordsUncorrectable Codewords
CM Error Codewords | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
16 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 |
1185818792 | 2572854206 | 2572861968 | 2572867715 | 2572874701 | 2572880792 | 2572885009 | 2572888514 | 2572894588 | 2572900459 | 2572908078 | 2572913313 | 2572918636 | 2572923925 | 2572927589 | 2572931737 | 2572936437 | 2572941887 | 2572946700 | 2572951350 | 2572957109 | 2572963498 | 2572969264 | 2572974266 | 2572982005 | 2572986545 | 2572991682 | 2572997382 | 2573001410 | 2573009042 | 2573012181 | 2573013698 | 1185818792 |
1149830432 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1149830432 |
0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
01-07-2024 06:11 PM
@nugpot can you post the downstream signal level table that sits just above the codeword table, and post the upstream signal level table as well?
01-07-2024 07:12 PM
Channel Bonding ValueChannel ID
Lock Status
Frequency
SNR
Power Level
Modulation
01-07-2024 07:13 PM
That didn't work very well
01-07-2024 07:17 PM
Channel IDLock StatusFrequencySymbol RatePower LevelModulationChannel Type
Upstream | Channel Bonding Value | |||
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 10 |
Locked | Locked | Locked | Locked | Locked |
21 MHz | 25 MHz | 32 MHz | 38 MHz | 4 MHz |
2560 | 5120 | 5120 | 5120 | 0 |
38.5 dBmV | 39.5 dBmV | 39.5 dBmV | 41.0 dBmV | 39.7 dBmV |
QAM | QAM | QAM | QAM | OFDMA |
TDMA_AND_ATDMA | ATDMA | ATDMA | ATDMA | TDMA |
01-07-2024 07:57 PM
The downstream levels aren't a problem to sort out. Here's the table, transposed to a vertical format:
Channel ID | Lock Status | Frequency | SNR | Power Level | Modulation |
16 |
Locked |
651 MHz |
39.4 dB |
8.9 dBmV |
256 QAM |
1 |
Locked |
303 MHz |
38.7 dB |
8.3 dBmV |
256 QAM |
2 |
Locked |
849 MHz |
38.4 dB |
9.2 dBmV |
256 QAM |
3 |
Locked |
855 MHz |
38.4 dB |
9.0 dBmV |
256 QAM |
4 |
Locked |
861 MHz |
38.2 dB |
8.8 dBmV |
256 QAM |
5 |
Locked |
579 MHz |
39.7 dB |
10.0 dBmV |
256 QAM |
6 |
Locked |
585 MHz |
39.7 dB |
10.0 dBmV |
256 QAM |
7 |
Locked |
591 MHz |
39.6 dB |
10.1 dBmV |
256 QAM |
8 |
Locked |
597 MHz |
39.6 dB |
10.1 dBmV |
256 QAM |
9 |
Locked |
603 MHz |
39.5 dB |
9.9 dBmV |
256 QAM |
10 |
Locked |
609 MHz |
39.6 dB |
10.0 dBmV |
256 QAM |
11 |
Locked |
615 MHz |
39.4 dB |
9.8 dBmV |
256 QAM |
12 |
Locked |
621 MHz |
39.5 dB |
9.5 dBmV |
256 QAM |
13 |
Locked |
633 MHz |
39.5 dB |
9.3 dBmV |
256 QAM |
14 |
Locked |
639 MHz |
39.4 dB |
9.1 dBmV |
256 QAM |
15 |
Locked |
645 MHz |
39.3 dB |
8.8 dBmV |
256 QAM |
17 |
Locked |
657 MHz |
39.3 dB |
8.6 dBmV |
256 QAM |
18 |
Locked |
663 MHz |
39.1 dB |
8.2 dBmV |
256 QAM |
19 |
Locked |
669 MHz |
38.7 dB |
8.0 dBmV |
256 QAM |
20 |
Locked |
675 MHz |
38.6 dB |
8.2 dBmV |
256 QAM |
21 |
Locked |
681 MHz |
38.8 dB |
7.8 dBmV |
256 QAM |
22 |
Locked |
687 MHz |
38.7 dB |
7.8 dBmV |
256 QAM |
23 |
Locked |
693 MHz |
38.6 dB |
7.9 dBmV |
256 QAM |
24 |
Locked |
699 MHz |
38.8 dB |
8.0 dBmV |
256 QAM |
25 |
Locked |
705 MHz |
38.8 dB |
8.3 dBmV |
256 QAM |
26 |
Locked |
711 MHz |
38.9 dB |
8.3 dBmV |
256 QAM |
27 |
Locked |
717 MHz |
38.9 dB |
8.3 dBmV |
256 QAM |
28 |
Locked |
723 MHz |
38.9 dB |
8.7 dBmV |
256 QAM |
29 |
Locked |
825 MHz |
38.8 dB |
9.8 dBmV |
256 QAM |
30 |
Locked |
831 MHz |
38.8 dB |
9.5 dBmV |
256 QAM |
31 |
Locked |
837 MHz |
38.7 dB |
9.5 dBmV |
256 QAM |
32 |
Locked |
843 MHz |
38.6 dB |
9.3 dBmV |
256 QAM |
33 |
Locked |
350 Mhz |
37.3 dB |
8.1 dBmV |
OFDM |
Ok, fwiw, your downstream signal levels are too high. They should be sitting at or near 0 dBmV. The upstream signal levels are ok.
The high error count for channel 16 is odd, to say the least as its a typical Quadrature Amplitude Modulation channel. That might be the point where the channel tilt changes. The power output of the neighbourhood node is not constant. That is due to the signal losses in the cable system that runs from the neighbouhood node, to the local tap (pedestal or utility pole located) and then finally to the modem. As you go up in frequency, starting at 200 Mhz, and working up to 1 Ghz, and possibly up to 1.2 Ghz the cable signal losses increase. To counteract that loss, the neighbourhood node output levels increase as you go up in frequency. Channel 16 might be one point where the gain is adjusted at the output port of the neighbourhood node.
There is also the possibility of noise ingress at that frequency. That would take a Senior Tech or a specialist crew to determine.
Personal opinion, the main problem might be the high signal levels. Your downstream signal levels could drop by at least 9 db, to get to where they should be. That would require a 6 db and 3 dB Forward Path Attenuator, which drops the downstream signal levels and leaves the upstream signal levels where they are. That's what should happen. I suspect that a tech would install a large splitter to drop the signal levels by 7 or 11 dB, depending on what splitter he or she would install. That's a definite problem as the splitter drops signal levels in both directions. The end result is that the upstream signal levels would rise to 48 or 52 dbmV. 52 dBmV is the failure point where modems will start to shut down channels as it can't maintain such a high outbound signal level on all channels. When you get to that point, you would know it as the downstream rates start to slow down. This occurs as the data transfer acknowledgements back to the Cable Modem Termination System (CMTS), via the upstream channels slow down when the number of upstream channels are reduced.
So, the simple solution are Forward Path Attenuators, such as the following:
https://www.multicominc.com/product/multicom-mul-fpa85-forward-path-attenuator/
That attenuator is suitable for the next DOCSIS frequency expansion, which runs 5 to 85 Mhz for the upstream channels and 200 to 1218 Mhz for the downstream channels. I've seen posts where Rogers has implemented the 5 to 85 Mhz upstream signal range (mid-split).
These modems have a downstream signal range of +/- 15 dBmV. Historically, with the Hitron modems, any time the signal levels were outside of a +/- 6/7 dBmV range, the modem typically did not perform as it should. I suspect that same can be said about the Comcast XBx modems.
So, personal opinion, before doing anything, I'd drop the downstream signal levels down to 0 dBmV, without forcing the upstream signal levels up. Then, I'd go looking for service interrupts by running a 24 hour ping test to the CMTS.
01-07-2024 10:16 PM
A year since my original post regarding disconnects. My spam and trash show me the topic is very much alive. We still get several disconnects per day. Ususally very short (under a minute). Of course, as per Rogers, the bundle terms change and so does the equipment. Same old same old. Getting the run-a-round from Rogers is not the anwser. But that is the plan I see now. So many of you, one after next just fall in line and get the tech who has a script to follow with phonetics. Does anyone here have any power to get to the bottom of this?