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Ignite Internet & my LAN

shedrock
I plan to stick around

Hi All,

 

I just got my Rogers Ignite 1.5 GB Internet package, but I am not getting the speeds I was told I would get. Here is how my current setup is, and the speeds I am getting with downloads.

 

I have a LAN that uses 192.168.0.1 as my router's address. All of my 8 PC's are using static IP addresses,  so with that being said, my D-Link (815) Router (Yes, it is old, but hear me out). is wired directly into the Rogers WAN port on the XB7-CM modem. I purchased an RT-AX82U V2 ASUS Router to replace the D-Link 815, but the speed went up from 10 MP/s to 11 MB/s, so I returned it. The Rogers technicians that installed it for me to told me that my Router was outdated and upgrading it would improve the speeds, it clearly didn't.

 

However, I decided to test out my upstairs PC's (3 of them) that go into the D-Link 815 router by removing the network cable and plugging it into the left port on the Rogers XB7. I then went up stairs to test the speed, and it was giving me 723 Mbps, which is still great for me. The real issue that I am having is that now I can't browse the network shares that are connected to my D-Link router using the (192.168.0.1 IP address). So for instance my basement PC's are 192.168.0.x and so forth, but with the Rogers build in router, my IP's are obviously different, and so is the gateway. I am trying to find a solution to this, but I just can't seem to figure it out. I know there must be a solution to this, but I am limited in my knowledge regarding this matter. Please, can someone offer me some guidance here?

 

Regards,

 

Shedrock

 

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Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

-G-
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@shedrock wrote:

Thanks @Datalink for all the very helpful information. However, I can't seem to find a Router that has a multi-gig WAN port. I am looking at Best Buy and Canada Computers, but unless I am missing something, (i am sure I am) then maybe they don't carry them. I would purchase one and return this D-Link for sure if it's going to allow me to have better speeds.


Canada Computers has a bunch of ASUS routers that have 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet LAN and WAN ports:

 

RT-AX86U Pro - https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_5329&item_id=233155

RT-AX88U Pro - https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_5329&item_id=236564

GT-AX6000 - https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_5329&item_id=214378

 

New Wi-Fi 7 routers are now also coming on the market, so the prices on those older routers will be coming down.

 

Also, keep in mind that as long as your computers have only a Gigabit Ethernet port, their download speeds will still top out at 930 - 940 Mbps.

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

Biollw
I'm a senior advisor

Most have only one 2.5g port which then can be connected to a multi-gig port switch.

Side note: the WAN port are only 1-gig

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

shedrock
I plan to stick around

I was going to get this one I just found:

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_5329&item_id=238344

 

Would this one be sufficient?

 

Shedrock

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

Datalink
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Looking at the routers that @-G- pointed out:

 

1.  RT-AX86U Pro:  this only has a single 2.5 Gb/s WAN / LAN PORT.   Not a contender.

2.  RT-AX88U Pro:  this has two 2.5G / 1G ports, WAN / LAN.  Can be configured, maybe for dual WAN ports for port aggregation which doesn't matter as Rogers XBx modems don't support WAN aggregation.  This is a possibilty.

3.  GT-AX6000:  this also has two 2.5G / 1G ports, which can also be configured for port aggregation.  This is a possibility as well.  

 

Thee are other Asus routers that support 2.5 Gb/s ethernet, but, at the moment I don't know off of the top of my head whether they have dual 2.5G / 1G WAN / LAN ports.

 

In terms of the two possible routers above, it comes down to what size of footprint do you want for a router?  

 

Note that both routers are also supported by Merlin, which is an enhanced version of the Asus firmware:

 

https://www.snbforums.com/threads/asuswrt-merlin-3004-388-4-is-now-available.86428/

 

Just to note, @-G- tried one of these recently and returned it as he wasn't satisfied with it.  I've used Asus routers for a number of years, but, I probably don't use 95%, or more, of what the router is capable of doing.  So, with limited functions running, I don't really have any complaints other than an odd case where a tablet doesn't get along with the 5 Ghz network.  Personal opinion, my thinking these days is for a separate ethernet router and wifi access point, where you can upgrade one or both as you prefer.  That's a much different can of worms as they say.  I like the ability to filter adds, which the Asus router addons offer, so, if I can duplicate that in an stand alone ethernet router, I might consider going down that route.  

 

The TP-Link router that you pointed out only has a single 2.5Gb/s WAN port.  So, its depends on what you want to do, run up to 2.5 Gb/s as an aggregate data rate into the router, with 1 Gb/s ports outbound to your devices, or, buy a router with two 2.5 Gb/s ports which provide that capability for both WAN and LAN ports.  I'm thinking down the road where you would only have to add a multi-gig switch to provide higher data rates to your ethernet connected devices. 

 

Its all crystal ball gazing and future preference at this point.

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

Biollw
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Most definitely. On sale too !

I just replaced my router with the ASUS RT-AX86U pro. 

On my 500m Ignite I test out at 920m. Even on my cell phione I connect wifi6 at connection rate of 1.4g and test out at 920m.

Used to only test out to 520m on the netgear router. So I rplaced it. Wanted wifi6.

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

shedrock
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I was going to get this one: https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_5329&item_id=238344if it can work, that is. I also bought 2 of these switches,

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/d-link-d-link-5-port-metal-gigabit-switch-dgs-105-dgs-105/10228...

 

I'm not sure if this will be sufficient, maybe you can advise me?

 

Thanks,

 

Shedrock

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

The router page at TP-Link is located here:

 

Archer AX80 | AX6000 8-Stream Wi-Fi 6 Router with 2.5G Port | TP-Link Canada

 

So, that router has a single 2.5 Gb/s port, that can be configured as a WAN port or a a LAN port.  So, if you configure that as a WAN port, you can receive up to 2.5 Gb/s into the router.  From there, you spread that 2.5 Gb/s across the wifi devices and gigabit ethernet ports.  Anything downstream running via ethernet will only run 1 Gb/s raw data rates which will translate into approx 940 Mb/s.  

 

The switch that you pointed out is a gigabit unmanaged switch, so the most that you can run thru that switch is approx 940 Mb/s.  

 

If you use the gigabit WAN port on the router to connect to the modem, then you're capped at 1 Gb/s in terms of total data rate into and out of the WAN port. I'm assuming here that you will be running the modem in Bridge mode.  That leaves the 2.5 Gb/s port as a LAN port.  

 

Are you looking for future capability to run up to 2.5 Gb/s to ethernet connected devices, or are you ok with running approx 940 Mb/s to those devices.  If you're ok with 940 Mb/s at the moment, then the router and switch will do the job. 

 

For the switch, keep in mind that switches come in a large variety of port numbers.  So, you can do 5, 8, 16, 24, ports, etc, etc.  And there is also the choice of unmanaged (plug and play), managed, Power over Ethernet (POE) to provide power to wifi access points.  If two 5 port switches work,ok.  If you need more ports, you can buy larger switches.  

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

shedrock
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"The TP-Link router that you pointed out only has a single 2.5Gb/s WAN port. So, its depends on what you want to do, run up to 2.5 Gb/s as an aggregate data rate into the router, with 1 Gb/s ports outbound to your devices, or, buy a router with two 2.5 Gb/s ports which provide that capability for both WAN and LAN ports."

 

I was just going to get this one for now until I can afford something better. I don't mind the 1 GB outbound to my devices, at least for now. I was on the Bell 50 Mbps, so this is an amazing jump in speed for me. I can live with the slower speeds for now, at least until the end of the year. So for now I will just get the TP-Link and connect my main PC's (3 of them) to it, and see what happens.

 

Thank you so very much for your advice and support. I'll post back here when I get it setup. Hopefully by th eend of the week.

 

Regards,

 

Sehdrock

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

Keep us informed as to how it all turns out and if you run into any problems, don't hesitate to ask questions 🙂

 

Keep in mind, Black Friday sales will be coming up.  When does Amazon hold their yearly sales days?  Has that already passed?

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

shedrock
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I most definitely will keep you guys up to date when I get it setup. As for Black Friday sales, well, I'll most probably get the ASUS router and hold on to this new one as well.😊

 

Thanks,

 

Shedrock

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

-G-
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@Datalink wrote:

Looking at the routers that @-G- pointed out:

 

1.  RT-AX86U Pro:  this only has a single 2.5 Gb/s WAN / LAN PORT.   Not a contender.

2.  RT-AX88U Pro:  this has two 2.5G / 1G ports, WAN / LAN.  Can be configured, maybe for dual WAN ports for port aggregation which doesn't matter as Rogers XBx modems don't support WAN aggregation.  This is a possibilty.

3.  GT-AX6000:  this also has two 2.5G / 1G ports, which can also be configured for port aggregation.  This is a possibility as well.  


Thanks.  I thought that these were almost equivalent from a hardware perspective, and I could have sworn that the RT-AX86U Pro had two 2.5 GigE ports (I almost bought one of these) but clearly I was mistaken.

Just to note, @-G- tried one of these recently and returned it as he wasn't satisfied with it.  I've used Asus routers for a number of years, but, I probably don't use 95%, or more, of what the router is capable of doing.  So, with limited functions running, I don't really have any complaints other than an odd case where a tablet doesn't get along with the 5 Ghz network.


Yeah, I found the RT-AX88U Pro (with both stock firmware and Asuswrt-Merlin) to be a somewhat wonky -- not a quality I want in a device that secures my home network.  Also, if you enable any features that disable hardware acceleration/offloading your throughput will plummet.

 

Coming from an Enterprise and Service Provider networking and large-scale infrastructure background, I'm not a fan of consumer-grade networking gear.  I don't want cloud-based management or to do any configuration with a mobile app.  I want gear that's secure and rock-solid stable, that I have total control over.  I don't even care whether it has a graphical or web-based UI for management.  My other pet peeve is when vendors stop providing software support after only a year or two, sometimes leaving you with an abandoned, bug-ridden product, where you don't even have the option of installing open source software.

 

Personal opinion, my thinking these days is for a separate ethernet router and wifi access point, where you can upgrade one or both as you prefer.  That's a much different can of worms as they say.  I like the ability to filter adds, which the Asus router addons offer, so, if I can duplicate that in an stand alone ethernet router, I might consider going down that route.  


I've been running in that mode for years.  While everybody complains about their Wi-Fi dropping, I have business grade access points that can support hundreds of connected devices without a single hiccup.

 

For my router, I had been running OpenWrt for years.  Now, I'm running a Firewall Mini PC with 2.5 GigE ports.  If you know what you are doing, you can install a very basic BSD UNIX or Linux system and hand-configure your own router/firewall from scratch... but maintenance can be a pain.  pfSense also works great on these devices, and I prefer it to OPNsense.  You can also run OpenWrt.

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

shedrock
I plan to stick around

Hy guys,

 

I've not forgotten to update you on with the installation of the new TP-Link router. I've just been in bed with Covid for the last 14 days. Will update as soon as I can manage.

 

Regards,

 

Shedrock

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

Don_Ca
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Search for 2.5G WAN you will find some, they tend to be the higher-end models over $400.  

Re: Ignite Internet & my LAN

shedrock
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Sorry for the delay in my response guys, but everything seems to be ok. I am getting a max DL speed of approx 903-917 Mbs and upload speed at approx. 54 Mbps. I do seem to be having an issue, so I am going to post it in the following thread.

 

https://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/Internet/IGNITE-GATEWAY-KEEPS-GOING-OFFLINE-MODEM-REPLACEMENT/...

 

Regards,

 

Shedrock

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