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Extremely high latency and slow speeds

rsrevo
I'm here a lot

I've been having these issues for the past few days. I'm currently on a 500mbps business plan, getting latency in the 800ms+, and speeds varying from 15mbps to 250mbps.

Rogers support reps refuse to send out a tech because I don't have Ignite, so they're forcing me to pay extra to get Ignite to fix the problem. They won't give me a new modem and simply switch me to a 500mbps ignite plan at the same cost, but will gladly move me to a 1.5gb plan for $20 extra a month.

This is ridiculous. I'm paying for a service that worked fine, but now I'll continue to get billed for a service that doesn't work as advertised unless I pay even more. This seems very unethical.

Is anyone else having these issues or can provide some guidance, because support has not been of any help.

 

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Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

Datalink
Resident Expert
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@rsrevo to run 1.5 or 2.5 Gb/s out of the modem you need an XB7 or XB8 modem.  Those modems have one single port, port 4, which can run up to 2.5 Gb/s to a connected device.  

 

In the case of an XB7, that modem is cable connected, which means that you can run 2.5 Gb/s out of port 4. 

 

In the case of an XB8 that is cable connected, you can run 2.5 Gb/s out of port 4 as port 4 acts as a LAN port when the modem is connected via cable. 

 

In the case of an XB8 that is connected to a fibre optic Nokia Optical Network Terminal (ONT), the ONT connects to the modem via port 4, connecting at 2.5 Gb/s raw data rate.  That port, on an XB8 is a WAN or a LAN port.  When that port is connected as a WAN port, it is the only port on the modem that serves as a firewalled port, protecting the modem and anything connected to the modem.  By using port 4 as the WAN port, Comcast has limited the throughput thru the modems other ports to 1 Gb/s, as those ports are only 1 Gb/s ports while the ONT / Modem combo communicates at 2.5 Gb/s.  That's just the way that Comcast designed the modem.  

 

Here is Rogers lineup of modems at the current time.  The modem's from the left are the XB8, XB7 and XB6.

 

https://www.rogers.com/support/internet/setup-install

 

Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

I don't understand what this has to do with my issue. My current plan is 500mbps, not 1.5 gb/s or 2.5 gb/s. My issue is with latency, inconsistent speeds, and price gouging practices.

The issue happens both on wifi and hard-wired LAN. It wasn't an issue before but now it is, and apparently, the only solution is to pay more to upgrade to 1.5gb/s? This does not seem right.

Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

Ok, just pointing out that if, for any reason you decide to switch to a 1.5 Gb/s plan, although that shouldn't be required, you would need an XB7 or XB8 modem. 

 

Fwiw, Rogers does have plans that run less than 1.5 Gb/s.

 

Alright, to the issue at hand, what modem are you currently using if you don't have an "Ignite" modem?  Have a look at the current modem lineup if you're not sure what the modem name is:

 

Internet Self-Install - Help and Support - Rogers

 

At the current time, Rogers is attempting to persuade / cajole / convince / herd / twist your arm / call it what you want / force customers over the the XB6, XB7 or XB8 modems.  Essentially that means not supporting customers who are running older modems and running into technical issues that possibly have nothing to do the modem itself.  You might fit into that category.  At the end of the day, when all customers are running the XBx modems and Rogers completely redesigns its cable network frequency configuration, all customers could benefit from higher data rates if Rogers see fit to actually use the bandwidth that will be available.  What is it they say about horses, you can lead them to water ......

 

If you're running a black or white Hitron modem, log into the modem and navigate to the STATUS ... DOCSIS WAN tab.  Put your curser in front of the Downstream Overview line.  Hold down the shift key and scroll down and to the right until your curser is sitting just after the last character in the bottom row, right hand column of the last Overview section of the page.  Release the shift key and right click .... Copy to copy the selected data.  

 

In a new post, right click ..... Paste.  That should paste in the tables, as they appear in the modem's user interface. 

 

The older Hitron modems will show the Upstream Overview as the bottom data table, the white Hitron CODA-4582 will show the OFDMA Overview as the bottom data table.  You need to go the bottom right column of those tables to copy all of the data.  Ok, thats a start, just to see what your signal levels are doing. 

 

Next, bring up a command prompt and type in:  tracert -4 www.google.ca

 

That will produce an IPV4 trace to google which will show a snapshot of the timing from hop to hop.  The moderators would ask for that just to see if it shows anything that it shouldn't even though its just a snapshot.

 

Run that command, then select all of the data and use Ctrl c to copy the data.  Use Ctrl V to paste that data into a post.  

 

Ok, can you give that a go so we can see what the data shows.

 

 

Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

Downstream Overview

Port IDFrequency (Hz)ModulationSignal strength (dBmV)Channel IDSignal noise ratio (dB)BytesCorrectedsUncorrectables
1591000000QAM2565.199440.9463627164001120
2597000000QAM2565.000540.9468512236960
3603000000QAM2564.800640.9468558552670
4609000000QAM2565.300740.36685575637180
5579000000QAM2564.900240.94610668961600
6585000000QAM2565.000340.36610662605700
7279000000QAM2562.900140.94610717052400
8615000000QAM2565.300840.3668656743700
9621000000QAM2565.500940.9468643887700
10633000000QAM2565.9001040.9468627745800
11639000000QAM2566.0001140.9468686062800
12645000000QAM2566.0001240.3668774006300
13651000000QAM2565.9001340.3668503421500
14657000000QAM2565.8001440.3668873418000
15663000000QAM2565.6991540.9468793879600
16669000000QAM2566.0001640.9468860776500
17675000000QAM2566.0001740.94610544186400
18681000000QAM2565.8001840.36610541079700
19687000000QAM2565.8001940.36610575488600
20693000000QAM2565.9002040.9468774634700
21699000000QAM2566.0002140.94610406554800
22705000000QAM2565.5992240.36610310924600
23711000000QAM2566.1992340.94610344083900
24717000000QAM2566.0002440.36610344352900
25723000000QAM2565.5992540.36610931438500
26825000000QAM2565.5992640.94610890564400
27831000000QAM2566.0002740.94610787904600
28837000000QAM2565.8002840.94610807291400
29843000000QAM2565.0002940.36610889597500
30849000000QAM2566.0003040.94610835529300
31855000000QAM2565.1993140.36611131285100
32861000000QAM2564.3003240.94611007472400

 

 

traceroute to www.google.ca (142.251.41.35), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 puma7-atom (192.168.0.1) 1.670 ms 1.861 ms 2.010 ms
2 99.234.0.1 (99.234.0.1) 98.367 ms 110.751 ms 162.985 ms
3 8076-dgw02.hnsn.rmgt.net.rogers.com (69.63.242.213) 105.030 ms 115.714 ms 50.888 ms
4 69.63.249.38 (69.63.249.38) 71.323 ms

Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

rsrevo
I'm here a lot

So it seems like this is an issue for many other people since many are posting about this issue in the forums but Rogers refuses to acknowledge that this is an issue on their end.

Instead, I keep getting the runaround that "everything looks ok", and apparently my electrical panel is giving off radiation according to one tech support person.

This is an issue affecting many other people. My work and income are being negatively affected by this because I can't take on new urgent jobs because of this unreliable connection.

If this isn't resolved by end of the week, I'll be cancelling. Don't care if I have to pay more with another provider.

Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

Hello, @rsrevo.

 

We're thrilled to have you join our Community. Latency and slow speeds can impede the Internet service experience. Thank you for posting downstream and traceroute results. The upstream levels are missing; however, we can investigate the issue. Please send us a private message at @CommunityHelps. We detailed more info about our private messaging in this blog

 

Cheers,

RogersMoin

Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

user2024
I've been around

I am also on the Business Internet Fibre plan (Ignite Modem) and noticed that my Internet speeds have been very slow recently. Both wifi and wired. Can someone please assist ?
I am in Kitchener-Waterloo area in Ontario BTW.




Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

TwoChews
I've been around

Latency and packet loss have rendered our entire neighbourhood internet completely unusable. (Dixie/Queensway area in SE Mississauga). They just keep sending individual technician contractors and replacing people's modems. If it wasn't so infuriating it would be comical.  

 

Just ran the usual tracert & ping to google's servers and the results are as predictable as they are sad.  After about 4pm you can pretty much forget about using the 1.5gbps 'service' for anything other than highly buffered streaming. 

 

The below info is from ~9:30pm tonight.
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Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

gameronline
I've been here awhile

There is a serious problem with parts of Rogers' network.  My problem is right at the head end, the first hop from my modem.  I use CAT6 wiring so it's not a WiFi issue.  I installed a program called PingPlotter on my PC which graphs the latency every 1 sec.  My latency steadily rises to about 600-700ms over a 20 sec period then drops back down to 20-50 ms.    The graph looks like watching a heart beat monitor, rising and falling  every 20-30 sec.  I have escalated it for over 2 months now and I have been told that they are working on it.  However I am disappointed in the transparency because the issue still has not been fixed and no explanation of the problem or remedy has been communicated to me.  There is a lack of transparency of what the problem is or when the solution will be implemented.   I want to stay with Rogers but this is pushing me to seriously consider switch providers.

Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

mlbenson
I've been here awhile

 I am having same issues with my Rogers T.V. and I have Ignite so I will be calling them. Very delayed internet with long intermittent pauses and freezing … I am in West Mississauga.

Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

gameronline
I've been here awhile

Any luck getting your latency resolved ?  I've had no luck so far.  I'm escalating it to someone higher than the tech supervisor (the last supervisor told me that it was normal to have fluctuating latency... I say  baloney).

 

Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

LordDrakkon
I'm an advisor

TraceRoutes are one thing but just looking at those numbers.  The issue isn't just the Rogers network.  Any ms over 2 digits is definitely not great and ideally, everything under 50ms is definitely preferred.  If you live in a neighbourhood with lots of highrise buildings in a small area (very dense population).  The issue is more than likely that the area is over provisioned.  

 

When running a traceroute.  Are all devices except the device you are using to run the traceroute being disconnected?  This will eliminate another device on your service sucking up bandwidth away from your other devices and the device running the traceroute.  Are you running your traceroute over a wired connection or a wireless?  Wired is the best method to run a traceroute over.  Have you tried another device to run the traceroute from to rule out the device causing increased latency during your testing?  Have you tried running traceroutes to other servers and non-google servers and in different places to get an accurate picture of where the issue could be?  Google servers are constantly botted for so many reasons that it makes them one of the worst testing environments to use.  

Re: Extremely high latency and slow speeds

mlbenson
I've been here awhile

It has resolved on its own for now … 

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