01-22-2024 10:16 PM - last edited on 01-22-2024 10:27 PM by RogersTony
I've been having these issues for the past few days. I'm currently on a 500mbps business plan, getting latency in the 800ms+, and speeds varying from 15mbps to 250mbps.
Rogers support reps refuse to send out a tech because I don't have Ignite, so they're forcing me to pay extra to get Ignite to fix the problem. They won't give me a new modem and simply switch me to a 500mbps ignite plan at the same cost, but will gladly move me to a 1.5gb plan for $20 extra a month.
This is ridiculous. I'm paying for a service that worked fine, but now I'll continue to get billed for a service that doesn't work as advertised unless I pay even more. This seems very unethical.
Is anyone else having these issues or can provide some guidance, because support has not been of any help.
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01-22-2024 10:59 PM - edited 01-22-2024 11:01 PM
@rsrevo to run 1.5 or 2.5 Gb/s out of the modem you need an XB7 or XB8 modem. Those modems have one single port, port 4, which can run up to 2.5 Gb/s to a connected device.
In the case of an XB7, that modem is cable connected, which means that you can run 2.5 Gb/s out of port 4.
In the case of an XB8 that is cable connected, you can run 2.5 Gb/s out of port 4 as port 4 acts as a LAN port when the modem is connected via cable.
In the case of an XB8 that is connected to a fibre optic Nokia Optical Network Terminal (ONT), the ONT connects to the modem via port 4, connecting at 2.5 Gb/s raw data rate. That port, on an XB8 is a WAN or a LAN port. When that port is connected as a WAN port, it is the only port on the modem that serves as a firewalled port, protecting the modem and anything connected to the modem. By using port 4 as the WAN port, Comcast has limited the throughput thru the modems other ports to 1 Gb/s, as those ports are only 1 Gb/s ports while the ONT / Modem combo communicates at 2.5 Gb/s. That's just the way that Comcast designed the modem.
Here is Rogers lineup of modems at the current time. The modem's from the left are the XB8, XB7 and XB6.
https://www.rogers.com/support/internet/setup-install
01-22-2024 11:10 PM
I don't understand what this has to do with my issue. My current plan is 500mbps, not 1.5 gb/s or 2.5 gb/s. My issue is with latency, inconsistent speeds, and price gouging practices.
The issue happens both on wifi and hard-wired LAN. It wasn't an issue before but now it is, and apparently, the only solution is to pay more to upgrade to 1.5gb/s? This does not seem right.
01-22-2024 11:38 PM - edited 01-22-2024 11:59 PM
Ok, just pointing out that if, for any reason you decide to switch to a 1.5 Gb/s plan, although that shouldn't be required, you would need an XB7 or XB8 modem.
Fwiw, Rogers does have plans that run less than 1.5 Gb/s.
Alright, to the issue at hand, what modem are you currently using if you don't have an "Ignite" modem? Have a look at the current modem lineup if you're not sure what the modem name is:
Internet Self-Install - Help and Support - Rogers
At the current time, Rogers is attempting to persuade / cajole / convince / herd / twist your arm / call it what you want / force customers over the the XB6, XB7 or XB8 modems. Essentially that means not supporting customers who are running older modems and running into technical issues that possibly have nothing to do the modem itself. You might fit into that category. At the end of the day, when all customers are running the XBx modems and Rogers completely redesigns its cable network frequency configuration, all customers could benefit from higher data rates if Rogers see fit to actually use the bandwidth that will be available. What is it they say about horses, you can lead them to water ......
If you're running a black or white Hitron modem, log into the modem and navigate to the STATUS ... DOCSIS WAN tab. Put your curser in front of the Downstream Overview line. Hold down the shift key and scroll down and to the right until your curser is sitting just after the last character in the bottom row, right hand column of the last Overview section of the page. Release the shift key and right click .... Copy to copy the selected data.
In a new post, right click ..... Paste. That should paste in the tables, as they appear in the modem's user interface.
The older Hitron modems will show the Upstream Overview as the bottom data table, the white Hitron CODA-4582 will show the OFDMA Overview as the bottom data table. You need to go the bottom right column of those tables to copy all of the data. Ok, thats a start, just to see what your signal levels are doing.
Next, bring up a command prompt and type in: tracert -4 www.google.ca
That will produce an IPV4 trace to google which will show a snapshot of the timing from hop to hop. The moderators would ask for that just to see if it shows anything that it shouldn't even though its just a snapshot.
Run that command, then select all of the data and use Ctrl c to copy the data. Use Ctrl V to paste that data into a post.
Ok, can you give that a go so we can see what the data shows.
01-23-2024 10:29 PM
Downstream Overview
Port ID | Frequency (Hz) | Modulation | Signal strength (dBmV) | Channel ID | Signal noise ratio (dB) | Bytes | Correcteds | Uncorrectables |
1 | 591000000 | QAM256 | 5.199 | 4 | 40.946 | 3627164001 | 12 | 0 |
2 | 597000000 | QAM256 | 5.000 | 5 | 40.946 | 85122369 | 6 | 0 |
3 | 603000000 | QAM256 | 4.800 | 6 | 40.946 | 85585526 | 7 | 0 |
4 | 609000000 | QAM256 | 5.300 | 7 | 40.366 | 85575637 | 18 | 0 |
5 | 579000000 | QAM256 | 4.900 | 2 | 40.946 | 106689616 | 0 | 0 |
6 | 585000000 | QAM256 | 5.000 | 3 | 40.366 | 106626057 | 0 | 0 |
7 | 279000000 | QAM256 | 2.900 | 1 | 40.946 | 107170524 | 0 | 0 |
8 | 615000000 | QAM256 | 5.300 | 8 | 40.366 | 86567437 | 0 | 0 |
9 | 621000000 | QAM256 | 5.500 | 9 | 40.946 | 86438877 | 0 | 0 |
10 | 633000000 | QAM256 | 5.900 | 10 | 40.946 | 86277458 | 0 | 0 |
11 | 639000000 | QAM256 | 6.000 | 11 | 40.946 | 86860628 | 0 | 0 |
12 | 645000000 | QAM256 | 6.000 | 12 | 40.366 | 87740063 | 0 | 0 |
13 | 651000000 | QAM256 | 5.900 | 13 | 40.366 | 85034215 | 0 | 0 |
14 | 657000000 | QAM256 | 5.800 | 14 | 40.366 | 88734180 | 0 | 0 |
15 | 663000000 | QAM256 | 5.699 | 15 | 40.946 | 87938796 | 0 | 0 |
16 | 669000000 | QAM256 | 6.000 | 16 | 40.946 | 88607765 | 0 | 0 |
17 | 675000000 | QAM256 | 6.000 | 17 | 40.946 | 105441864 | 0 | 0 |
18 | 681000000 | QAM256 | 5.800 | 18 | 40.366 | 105410797 | 0 | 0 |
19 | 687000000 | QAM256 | 5.800 | 19 | 40.366 | 105754886 | 0 | 0 |
20 | 693000000 | QAM256 | 5.900 | 20 | 40.946 | 87746347 | 0 | 0 |
21 | 699000000 | QAM256 | 6.000 | 21 | 40.946 | 104065548 | 0 | 0 |
22 | 705000000 | QAM256 | 5.599 | 22 | 40.366 | 103109246 | 0 | 0 |
23 | 711000000 | QAM256 | 6.199 | 23 | 40.946 | 103440839 | 0 | 0 |
24 | 717000000 | QAM256 | 6.000 | 24 | 40.366 | 103443529 | 0 | 0 |
25 | 723000000 | QAM256 | 5.599 | 25 | 40.366 | 109314385 | 0 | 0 |
26 | 825000000 | QAM256 | 5.599 | 26 | 40.946 | 108905644 | 0 | 0 |
27 | 831000000 | QAM256 | 6.000 | 27 | 40.946 | 107879046 | 0 | 0 |
28 | 837000000 | QAM256 | 5.800 | 28 | 40.946 | 108072914 | 0 | 0 |
29 | 843000000 | QAM256 | 5.000 | 29 | 40.366 | 108895975 | 0 | 0 |
30 | 849000000 | QAM256 | 6.000 | 30 | 40.946 | 108355293 | 0 | 0 |
31 | 855000000 | QAM256 | 5.199 | 31 | 40.366 | 111312851 | 0 | 0 |
32 | 861000000 | QAM256 | 4.300 | 32 | 40.946 | 110074724 | 0 | 0 |
traceroute to www.google.ca (142.251.41.35), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 puma7-atom (192.168.0.1) 1.670 ms 1.861 ms 2.010 ms
2 99.234.0.1 (99.234.0.1) 98.367 ms 110.751 ms 162.985 ms
3 8076-dgw02.hnsn.rmgt.net.rogers.com (69.63.242.213) 105.030 ms 115.714 ms 50.888 ms
4 69.63.249.38 (69.63.249.38) 71.323 ms
01-25-2024 08:26 PM
So it seems like this is an issue for many other people since many are posting about this issue in the forums but Rogers refuses to acknowledge that this is an issue on their end.
Instead, I keep getting the runaround that "everything looks ok", and apparently my electrical panel is giving off radiation according to one tech support person.
This is an issue affecting many other people. My work and income are being negatively affected by this because I can't take on new urgent jobs because of this unreliable connection.
If this isn't resolved by end of the week, I'll be cancelling. Don't care if I have to pay more with another provider.
01-27-2024 08:37 PM
Hello, @rsrevo.
We're thrilled to have you join our Community. Latency and slow speeds can impede the Internet service experience. Thank you for posting downstream and traceroute results. The upstream levels are missing; however, we can investigate the issue. Please send us a private message at @CommunityHelps. We detailed more info about our private messaging in this blog.
Cheers,
RogersMoin
01-30-2024 06:36 PM - edited 01-30-2024 06:40 PM
I am also on the Business Internet Fibre plan (Ignite Modem) and noticed that my Internet speeds have been very slow recently. Both wifi and wired. Can someone please assist ?
I am in Kitchener-Waterloo area in Ontario BTW.
01-30-2024 09:41 PM
Latency and packet loss have rendered our entire neighbourhood internet completely unusable. (Dixie/Queensway area in SE Mississauga). They just keep sending individual technician contractors and replacing people's modems. If it wasn't so infuriating it would be comical.
Just ran the usual tracert & ping to google's servers and the results are as predictable as they are sad. After about 4pm you can pretty much forget about using the 1.5gbps 'service' for anything other than highly buffered streaming.
The below info is from ~9:30pm tonight.
06-28-2024 12:42 AM
There is a serious problem with parts of Rogers' network. My problem is right at the head end, the first hop from my modem. I use CAT6 wiring so it's not a WiFi issue. I installed a program called PingPlotter on my PC which graphs the latency every 1 sec. My latency steadily rises to about 600-700ms over a 20 sec period then drops back down to 20-50 ms. The graph looks like watching a heart beat monitor, rising and falling every 20-30 sec. I have escalated it for over 2 months now and I have been told that they are working on it. However I am disappointed in the transparency because the issue still has not been fixed and no explanation of the problem or remedy has been communicated to me. There is a lack of transparency of what the problem is or when the solution will be implemented. I want to stay with Rogers but this is pushing me to seriously consider switch providers.
06-28-2024 12:53 AM - edited 06-28-2024 12:54 AM
I am having same issues with my Rogers T.V. and I have Ignite so I will be calling them. Very delayed internet with long intermittent pauses and freezing … I am in West Mississauga.
07-04-2024 01:21 AM
Any luck getting your latency resolved ? I've had no luck so far. I'm escalating it to someone higher than the tech supervisor (the last supervisor told me that it was normal to have fluctuating latency... I say baloney).
07-04-2024 07:26 AM
TraceRoutes are one thing but just looking at those numbers. The issue isn't just the Rogers network. Any ms over 2 digits is definitely not great and ideally, everything under 50ms is definitely preferred. If you live in a neighbourhood with lots of highrise buildings in a small area (very dense population). The issue is more than likely that the area is over provisioned.
When running a traceroute. Are all devices except the device you are using to run the traceroute being disconnected? This will eliminate another device on your service sucking up bandwidth away from your other devices and the device running the traceroute. Are you running your traceroute over a wired connection or a wireless? Wired is the best method to run a traceroute over. Have you tried another device to run the traceroute from to rule out the device causing increased latency during your testing? Have you tried running traceroutes to other servers and non-google servers and in different places to get an accurate picture of where the issue could be? Google servers are constantly botted for so many reasons that it makes them one of the worst testing environments to use.
07-04-2024 11:12 AM
It has resolved on its own for now …