5G Standalone

[Rahul2001]

Hey, there.

Hope you are doing safe and well.

When are you adding more devices to the 5G Standalone Network, like iPhones.

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[RogersMaude]

Good afternoon @Rahul2001 ,

Thank you for posting your question to the Rogers community!

The 5G standalone network has its own network. This service will help bring advanced wireless capabilities including ultra-low latency data transmission, network slicing and mobile edge computing. 

5G+ (or 3500 MHz spectrum) is the latest network technology that'll improve the existing Rogers 5G network. It'll help deliver a better combination of speed, capacity and coverage. We anticipate it to offer up to 50% more network capacity. Think of it as more lanes on a highway to be able to handle more traffic.

If you are in a 5G or 5G+ coverage area with a Rogers Infinite plan, compatible device and SIM card, your phone will automatically connect to the network. Select devices will display a 5G or 5G+ network icon if they are inside a 5G/5G+ coverage area and have met all requirement for 5G/5G+ (compatible device, plan and SIM). You can find out if your device has 5G+ capabilities in the device specifications. 

The access to the network is not limited to the type of device, in this case iPhones, but to its compatibility with the 3500 MHz spectrum. The device must support the n78 band to access 5G+. Find more information here.

Let us know if you have questions!

RogersMaude

[Redlucas]

This didn’t really answer the question.

Three years ago, Rogers announced they launched their standalone 5G network for select devices.

The OP is asking when more devices will get access to it. I’m this case, iPhone.

I’m not aware of a 5G iPhone sold in Canada that doesn’t support band 78, so the compatibility is irrelevant.

Two carriers in Brazil launched SA for iPhone with the 16.4 update. T-mobile in the US as well.

Rogers announced Standalone a long time ago and have not mentioned it since except bragging about its capabilities here and there.

The OP has a very legitimate and relevant question that they’d like answered.

[LordDrakkon]

It is up to the device manufacturer to release an update bringing SA 5G compatibility to the device for each carriers network.  I can get 5G SA on my T-Mobile USA purchased s23 Ultra using my Rogers SIM, if I am in an area where that is supported, like here in parts of Toronto.  Rogers does limit some devices from accessing certain features on the network but those devices are usually devices not sold in Canada, the US, the UK, and EU.  What criteria has to be met for a device to be blocked from certain features, I am not entirely sure of, but as an example, some OnePlus devices have made it on to this list for some reason.  Rogers is much more relaxed on what devices can use features like VoLTE, VoNR, and WiFi Calling on their network compared to Bell and Telus.  

[Rahul2001]

Hi there, how are you?

I hope everyone is doing well and safely.

The new 5G Standalone network was compatible with Pixel devices when Rogers first introduced 5G Standalone use back in 2022. I want to know whether Rogers has added any more devices to the Rogers 5G Standalone network. Not talking about NSA or 3500 just talking about SA.

-Thanks Rahul.

[Rahul2001]

Sorry but that didn’t really answer my question about 5G Standalone when is it rolling to iPhones?

[LordDrakkon]

What makes you think it isn't already? Do you live in a 5G SA deployed area? 3500MHz bands are usually only deployed in very densely packed areas where lots of overlapping coverage can be deployed. If Apple hasn't updated the device to be 5G SA compatible. That is an Apple issue.

[Redlucas]

iPhones have supported SA since iPhone 13 (well 12, but that doesn't count because no carrier aggregation). T-Mobile have had it rolled out for over a year, and Telus just launched SA with the iPhone 15 launch. 

Definitely not an Apple problem. 

I can easily check the field test mode to check which band and 5G deployment mode my phone has... and generally when SA is rolled out on the iPhone (true for T-mobile and Telus) there is an opportunity to opt out. 

Next excuse please.

[Rahul2001]

Hi there, how are you?

You're right that TELUS released 5G Standalone, but it was also available for the iPhone 14 series. Before ROGERS SA was turned off, I seem to recall connecting to 5G Standalone back in 2022.
Here's the Proof:

Rogers SA - Imgur

Rogers website for the iPhone 15 and iPhone 14 it shows 5G Standalone Enabled yes.

[Rahul2001]

In my last message, I mentioned that I used to connect onto 5G Standalone evidence here. Apple has had SA for a long time, and since I reside in Brampton, it was supposed to be 5G Standalone and Rogers say 5G Standalone is capable on there network but it's disabled:

Rogers SA - Imgur

Rogers website for the iPhone 15 and iPhone 14 it shows 5G Standalone Enabled yes.

[RogersYasmine]

Hello @Rahul2001 ,

Thanks for sharing that info. 🙂

I dug into this a bit and based on my findings, as long as you meet the following requirements, you should have access to 5G+ (3500 MHz spectrum) while on the Rogers network:

- 5G-ready device that supports the n78 5G band

- 5G multi-SIM

- 5G+ 3500 MHz coverage

- a Rogers Infinite plan that comes with 5G access

It doesn't mention that the access is only available to specific phone types. 

You may also click on the following link for instructions on how to check if your device is compatible: How to Check if your Device is 5G or 5G+ Compatible- Rogers

I hope this is helpful!

RogersYasmine

[Rahul2001]

Hey Lord.
I hope you are doing safe and well.

Sorry for the long delay, where did you get 5G Standalone in parts of Toronto, got the S22 and flashed on the USA version?

Hope to hear from you soon.


-Best Regards,
Rahul.

[LordDrakkon]

Mostly in the downtown core. There are apps available that can tell you how you are connected and what band(s) you are using.

I am using an s23 Ultra that was purchased in the USA. I have also used the engineering menu to enable more bands and to allow SA and other band combinations.

[Rahul2001]

I brought the S22 in Canada but, I flashed the US Firmware and enabled all the Standalone Bands. Went to Union in Toronto and not getting any 5G Standalone. Do you have specific areas where I can test?

Thanks in advance. 

[Rahul2001]

Here is proof of it not connectining:
Rogers 5G SA not connecting- (keep personal infor private, email address present)
I went everywhere in the Downtown Core and didn't get SA.

[Rahul2001]

@LordDrakkon Hey there. Quick question, do you know specific areas where you connected to 5G Standalone? I went to Union, Dundas and I haven't connected to 5G Standalone at all.

[Rahul2001]

@LordDrakkon Hey there. I brought the S23 ("US Version) last week and haven't got any 5G Standalone in Downtown Toronto, guessing they turned it off.

[LordDrakkon]

I am still down south and won't be back in Torontountil after Thanksgiving. With all of the Rogers upgrades coming though for the World Cup hosting as well as major upgrades to the SkyDome. It is possible.

Have you done the band unlocking for your device and disabled all of the carrier aggregation checks? XDA has a great tutorial on that in the s23 Ultra section.

[Rahul2001]

Yes I have did it on XDA and disabled the CA combo check.