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Re: Windows 10 Upgrade

RogersAliciaG:

 

When I heard of the offer, I created a Microsoft account, which I've never done before. Sometime shorty afterwards, I got the upgrade offer. Might be worth a try if you don't have Microsoft account.

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If you hover your mouse over the "Show Hidden Icons" icon on the lower right hand side of your monitor and left click to bring up the hidden icon panel, you might see it sitting there.  The "Hidden Icons" icon is normally at the very left of all of the icons at the botton right hand side of the monitor.  The Windows 10 update icon resembles the "Windows Key" symbology from your keyboard (lower left hand side ?).  My advice to anyone considering an update to Windows 10 is to wait and determine if the pc or laptop that you have has all of the drivers available for windows 10.  Maybe Windows 8.1 drivers will work, maybe they won't.  Personal opinion, stick with 8.1 with all of its drivers, and make the leap when the Windows 10 drivers are available from your system manufacturer for download.



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Re: Windows 10 Upgrade

@jimboden Thanks for the tip, I will create an account with Microsoft once I get home. 

@Datalink I will also have a look into the hidden icon folders. 

 

Also as a side note I am looking at getting a new Laptop in the next few days. Smiley Happy

Any suggestions ?

 

I am not a fan of Mac.

Also I have had problems with Acer a few years ago, and have not felt the push to give them a second chance. Smiley Embarassed

 

My brother has a  Alienware and its an amazing system but its way to bulky for me to carry around everywhere with me . 

 

@VivienM perhaps you may also have a suggestion for me. 

 

RogersAliciaG

 

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Acer = AVOID. Unless you are going for their higher model. Acer low end to mid-range will break on you. they are meant to. (hence the attractive price point).
I would recommend Asus to be honest.

But My recommendation would actually to Hold off on buying Laptop.
Once Windows 10 lauches, with in a month or month and a half... you will see preinstalled dedicated Windows 10 Laptops. Go to the Microsoft store so they don't have bloatware... I recommend holding off.
And yes you need a microsoft account for... everything lol... which works like Apple ID... which works like Google single sign-on.

Alienware is Gaming with Dedicated Graphic card, so ... its bulky because it has more Gaming/Video Editing power. If thats not what you are looking for, you don't need alienware (owned by Dell)



If you haven't got the offer, they are doing it in batches. You aren't left out. Even if you don't have microsoft account. My laptop doesn't and it got the Update Icon Now 😄


I kind of wrote everything going back and forth on previous comments and mostly to respond to you @RogersAliciaG
and MAC is like Gucci, brand name. It doesn't do anything BETTER than PC... Newer PC are great.
MAC is a name, you pay for the name. Esepecially after MAC have started to use Intel Chipset ....

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Re: Windows 10 Upgrade


@RogersAliciaG wrote:

@jimboden Thanks for the tip, I will create an account with Microsoft once I get home. 

@Datalink I will also have a look into the hidden icon folders. 

 

Also as a side note I am looking at getting a new Laptop in the next few days. Smiley Happy

Any suggestions ?

 

I am not a fan of Mac.

Also I have had problems with Acer a few years ago, and have not felt the push to give them a second chance. Smiley Embarassed

 

My brother has a  Alienware and its an amazing system but its way to bulky for me to carry around everywhere with me . 

 

@VivienM perhaps you may also have a suggestion for me.


Welllllll...

1. Like everything else in the world, you get what you pay for... i.e. the more expensive machines will have better keyboards, touchpads, storage, etc... and screens.

 

2. I personally have nothing against Acer. The Microsoft Store has had some Acer machines that are excellent value for money, i.e. with 1920x1080 screens, dual-band wireless cards, etc., at very competitive prices.

 

3. If you want something nice and portable to carry around, how about the new Dell XPS 13 or the Lenovo X1 Carbon?

 

and finally, the big one: get a laptop with a proper dual-band 802.11ac wireless card. Over in the Internet forum, we get way too many people who are getting slow speeds and it turns out that their otherwise-very-nice laptop is hobbled by a lousy single-band 802.11n card.

 

(That being said, I am typing this on a retina mid-2014 MacBook Pro I got a few weeks ago... so that should tell you how I feel about the Windows ecosystem going forward)

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@ShakTib wrote:

and MAC is like Gucci, brand name. It doesn't do anything BETTER than PC... Newer PC are great.
MAC is a name, you pay for the name. Esepecially after MAC have started to use Intel Chipset ....


I don't agree. Look at the retina MacBook Pro I am typing this on:

1) How many PC vendors offer quad-core mobile processors anymore? Most of them only offer dual core. (It's funny, 4 years ago, you could get mainstream business Windows laptops in a quad-core variant. Now that's mostly gone - it's U-series dual cores only)

2) Apple offers 3x3 802.11ac. Intel's flagship 802.11ac card (7265) is 2x2; a lot of Windows laptops don't even have dual-band cards.

3) Apple offers PCI-E; the Windows guys offer at best SATA SSDs with half the transfer speed...

4) Apple has a high-resolution IPS screen; the Windows guys have finally started improving their screens but there are still a lot of lousy 1366x768 screens out there. (In all fairness, the MacBook Air has lousy screens too)

5) Apple has 16:10 screens; the Windows guys have all adopted the inferior 16:9 ratio...

etc.

 

There's a LOT of high-end componentry in most of the Apple laptops. Get a Windows laptop with similar internals, if you can find one, and you'll find that the price difference is not that much - a few hundred dollars or so...

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@VivienM 

I own a custom desktop, and my laptop runs linux/windows, since all my work is either web-based or terminal based for my server (which is my windows).

Your pre-built MacBook Pro doesn't beat Power vs Dollar value over a PC.
Mind you, Laptops can be custom built as well. Depending on which vendor you are going to. not just Dell and Alienware, just gotta know where to look, some good sites overseas.

Few things to understand though,
I think instead of rubbing the wrong way, I should clarify, I just have a passion against iOS. Not MAC. I like MAC.
MAC is like Gucci, You are select few who can justify WHY to buy MAC, but most people get it for the name.

 

End of the day, if you need a computer that streams and checks facebook. MAC isn't needed. Power or whatever.

Most of the people can't tell difference between 1080i or 1080p, let alone Retina...

 

To be fair, I didn't find Retina better for my video editing and I prefer my choice of GFX and RAM over pre-built.

I just don't prefer MACs.

It's not the end of the world though. 😛

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@ShakTib wrote:

I own a custom desktop, and my laptop runs linux/windows, since all my work is either web-based or terminal based for my server (which is my windows).

Your pre-built MacBook Pro doesn't beat Power vs Dollar value over a PC.
Mind you, Laptops can be custom built as well. Depending on which vendor you are going to. not just Dell and Alienware, just gotta know where to look, some good sites overseas.

Few things to understand though,
I think instead of rubbing the wrong way, I should clarify, I just have a passion against iOS. Not MAC. I like MAC.
MAC is like Gucci, You are select few who can justify WHY to buy MAC, but most people get it for the name.

 

End of the day, if you need a computer that streams and checks facebook. MAC isn't needed. Power or whatever.

Most of the people can't tell difference between 1080i or 1080p, let alone Retina...

 

To be fair, I didn't find Retina better for my video editing and I prefer my choice of GFX and RAM over pre-built.

I just don't prefer MACs.

It's not the end of the world though. 😛


 I've built my own Windows machines for close to 15 years. I have two machines running Windows 10 betas here, among a myriad of other Windows (7) machines. I've run pretty much every publicly-released beta build of Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10 (and if XP had had a public beta program I might have run betas of that too)...

 

If you want to know why I got the Mac:

1) Disappointment with my last Dell laptop (L502x), which needed two motherboard replacements, blew out 4-5 power adapters, etc. Its battery got trashed because due to loose power adapters (Dell quality for you) and blown power adapters, along with Windows' moody power management, it was completely run down at least 10-15 times. And this was their flagship non-Alienware consumer laptop when I got it, and I upgraded it with an SSD, 802.11ac card, 16GB RAM, etc...

 

2) The lousy state of the PC hardware ecosystem. What would be a good replacement for the L502x? A nice business laptop? (I have a Lenovo T550 at work... and it was $1750 for a dual-core i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SATA SSD - hardly cheap but it is outstanding for a work machine) Something consumery? Relatively few consumer machines come with factory SSDs and decent wireless cards, and I don't want to do surgery on a brand new under-warranty machine. I looked at some nice Dell 15.6" laptop with tons of RAM and a big SSD at the Microsoft store, but it was well over $2000, i.e. well into Apple pricing...

 

(Oh, and another pet peeve against the PC industry: bilingual keyboards. I will not buy a machine that does not have a proper unilingual English keyboard. That rules out a shockingly high number of consumer Windows machines, many of which are now built such that it's very difficult to do surgery and swap out the keyboard even if you can get the US-market keyboard...)

 

3) Windows 8/8.1. I was about as much of a MS fanboy as you could find (I even ran/defended Vista, for goodness's sake) until THEY decided to tell me to take a hike with their cynical Windows 8 exercise where they ruined Windows in an attempt to turn my dual-monitor desktop, my high-end 15.6" 1920x1080 laptop, etc. into a tablet with the cynical intent of leveraging their keyboard/mouse market share to muscle into tablets and kill the iPad.

 

Microsoft made it clear how much they valued my business (and that of every other enthusiast with nice high-end desktop machines) when they delivered an inferior, ill-suited product for cynical business reasons (which have largely backfired). (And this is not about the lack of a 'start menu'. It's about the full-screen dialog boxes. The touch-focused notifications. The entire Metro everything-is-full-screen philosophy.) Now they are trying again with 10, which is... markedly better than 8/8.1, but still tries to be everything for every class of device, and which still has an inconsistent interface (with the new 'Settings' control panel but the old familiar control panel still being used for some things, for example).

 

I may yet build another Windows box in part because my ancient one won't run Carmageddon Reincarnation... while I keep lusting after the retina iMac 🙂

 

As for iOS, I love my iPhone - before getting the iPhones, I had a BlackBerry that needed its battery pulled (to reboot) every day because it kept locking up. iOS may be restrictive... but it is also extraordinarily reliable. And unlike Android, it's actually reliably updated - try getting an upgrade to the current version of Android for a 2.5-year-old Samsung...

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Re: Windows 10 Upgrade

@RogersMoin
I agree.
@VivienM - thank you.

As a community we are allowed to enjoy great insight of people like VivienM, really made great points. Yes. I may not prefer MAC for all the right reason in my mind, but after reading VivienM point... (which I am speechless and not sure what to respond with)...
I gotta say... I should do a lot more research on. I am indeed not versed with apple product.

And hey @VivienM - I was joking, and definitely take back my words... Definitely not fandom... you went by experience and facts. and for that, I applaud good ,... well deserved. Smiley Surprised
Thank you for the informative details 🙂
I like how and what your preferences is, and I am very happy that you enjoy apple products more. They work for you, and end of the day, thats what matters, when tech finally works for us and stays working. Reliability is definitely a must.

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Not going to push PC versus MAC, but VivienM hit the nail on the head when she indicated  "get a laptop with a proper dual-band 802.11ac wireless card. Over in the Internet forum, we get way too many people who are getting slow speeds and it turns out that their otherwise-very-nice laptop is hobbled by a lousy single-band 802.11n card."

 

Yup, we see that all too often.  Nice laptp, too bad about the wifi card.  For the few pennies more that it would cost to put in a dual band wifi card, maybe even 802.11ac, there is no excuse on the part of the manufacturers to supply single band 2.4 Ghz wifi cards on their laptops. 

 

ShakTib also had a good idea, if you're looking to go Windows 10, wait for about a month when you can get a laptop with it already installed.  It will save you from hunting around for drivers needed to upgrade from 8.1 to 10. 

 

The "Hidden Icon" icon isn't actually a folder.  Its just an upward facing arrowhead at the left of the icons that reside on the lower right side of the monitor.  Selecting it will bring up the hidden icons for the other programs that are available.

 



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