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Re: Rogers Ignite TV - Alternate wifi/connection possibilities

Does Ignite TV affect your internet?

 

A friend of mine wants to switch from legacy cable TV to IgniteTV but she appears to have a more sophisticated home Wifi network as she is not using the Rogers gateway for internet.  Her router is Cicso (at least I see a Cisco router login page when I go to her gateway's IP on a browser) and she has three SSIDs on her wifi network, one for the business that is run out of the home, one for her home LAN, and one for a guest LAN.

 

Am I right in assuming that switching to Ignite TV would cause issues with her home wifi? 

 

If you are using Ignite TV does this force you to use Rogers gateway for Wifi in order to attach the Ignite clients to your LAN?  Are there more complex configurations where you can get around this?

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Your friend can continue to use her Cisco Router and her chosen wifi system. I suggest that she request the Technicolor Gateway for her Ignite TV package ... after the tech install the Technicolor Gateway simply put it in BRIDGE mode then connect the Cisco Router and you are good to go. 
check the following link how I did it 

https://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/Ignite-TV/Rogers-Ignite-TV-Installation-Experiences-Questions/...

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Assuming she chooses a package that can service her needs there should not be any impacts to her INTERNET. My suggestion is the 500 Mbps package.

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You can disable the Ignite modem and have it in a regular operating mode so you can hook up your own router and/or gateway with all the same settings intact. You’ll have to connect the Ignite Boxes via WPS to get everything working.
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From what I gathered talking to tech support and online. Yes you can use your own router however: 1) if not in bridge mode it will cause double NAT issues, 2) as someone else mentioned if you want to use the TV boxes wirelessly you will have to connect them to your 3rd party router via wifi. - it is my understanding that if you use your router the tv boxes will draw from your bandwidth available for other devices, if you use the XB6 provided by Rogers they use a separate channel/are isolated from your other internet traffic so they shouldn’t affect your other devices speed on the network (someone from Rogers will have to confirm that). Also note that if you do use the XB6 it does not have a guest mode so if that’s something needed than at this time a 3rd party router is the only option.
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Re: Rogers Ignite TV - Alternate wifi/connection possibilities

Is there any guide to setup new Ignite modem/router as bridge here as well?

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@rookie8155 wrote:

Is there any guide to setup new Ignite modem/router as bridge here as well?


Rogers has not published a "how-to" guide for this because their Tech Support teams can only officially support configurations where the XB6 is in Gateway mode and where the Xi6 set-top boxes connect either directly to the XB6 or through Ignite WiFi Pods or the (eero) Wall-to-Wall WiFi hub and beacons , not through a customer-owned router.

 

If @RogersDarrell  and @CommunityHelps  are okay with it, I could write up a more comprehensive "Bridge Mode" setup guide but I would also need to be able to revise it on an ongoing basis.  I also hesitate to do this because in my opinion, the only people who should be enabling Bridge Mode on their XB6 are those with moderately-advanced networking skills that can support and troubleshoot this configuration themselves and who don't require any assistance in setting this up in the first place.



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@rookie8155 wrote:

Is there any guide to setup new Ignite modem/router as bridge here as well?


As I said in my previous post, there's no official guide from Rogers but the setup isn't overly complicated either.  Ignite TV streams are unicast so unlike Fibe TV, no complex configuration is required; there's no need to get multicast working through the firewall nor do you need to set up VLANs on your router's WAN interface.

 

Ignite TV uses IPv6, so you need to have IPv4 and IPv6 enabled and working.  For your router's IPv6 WAN setup, use DHCPv6 to obtain an address and request a /64 IPv6-PD.

 

(Rogers has also posted tips on how to configure IPv6 on various devices here.)

 

I would also suggest using something like 192.168.1.0/24 for your internal LAN's IPv4 address space.  You can still log into the XB6 by going to http://10.0.0.1 , even when the unit is in bridge mode.  (It will do the routing for this connection internally.)

 

With these network setup tips, you'll also be able to switch your XB6 back into Gateway mode without having to reconfigure your network.

 

When testing your network, tests on https://test-ipv6.com/ and http://he.test-ipv6.com/ should pass with no errors.

 

To connect your Xi6 set-top boxes to your router's Wi-Fi, press and hold the "Exit" button on your remote for three seconds then key in: "Down" "Down" 9 4 3 4  (FYI, 9434 spells WiFi)

 

Before switching to a "Bridge Mode" setup, keep in mind that if you should ever run into any technical problems and need to call Rogers for tech support, you will need to put your Ignite TV components back into their original configuration, with Bridge Mode disabled on the XB6 and your set-top boxes connected to the XB6 directly.  Do this before calling Rogers through your home phone service.  You can't disable Bridge Mode while you are on the phone with them because doing so will reboot your XB6 and drop your call.  The Ignite TV components need to be in their original configuration so that Rogers can run their tests and poll the set-top boxes for their status.



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@rookie8155 wrote:

Is there any guide to setup new Ignite modem/router as bridge here as well?


Rogers has not published a "how-to" guide for this because their Tech Support teams can only officially support configurations where the XB6 is in Gateway mode and where the Xi6 set-top boxes connect either directly to the XB6 or through Ignite WiFi Pods or the (eero) Wall-to-Wall WiFi hub and beacons , not through a customer-owned router.

 

If @RogersDarrell  and @CommunityHelps  are okay with it, I could write up a more comprehensive "Bridge Mode" setup guide but I would also need to be able to revise it on an ongoing basis.  I also hesitate to do this because in my opinion, the only people who should be enabling Bridge Mode on their XB6 are those with moderately-advanced networking skills that can support and troubleshoot this configuration themselves and who don't require any assistance in setting this up in the first place.


Hello, @-G- 

 

It would be totally awesome if you were able to create a guide on how to walk customers through setting up their Ignite TV service when Bridged to their own routers. Since we do not support this type of setup we are unable to provide users with the steps.

 

I am sure this will help a lot of users resolve their qualms about making the switch to Ignite TV, knowing they can still use their own custom setups and equipment, which does not come cheap!

 

We really appreciate all of your contributions to the Community and look forward to reading your Ignite TV Bridged Setup Guide. 😃

 

RogersTony

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Wireless Access Point Use / Turning off Wifi on Rogers Router but Using External Access points. For the most part I'm happy with my Rogers ignite service and modem family feature for parental control/ scheduled downtime and time limits. I don't really want to lose those features. I am not that happy with the wifi.  I do have a couple of pods in the house and can never get more than 50-60 MBS per device. I have 18 devices in the house and mostly 12-16 connected all the time. I'm pretty savvy with wifi being a pro network guy :-). I would love to be able to turn off the WIFI in the router but use access points to give me my coverage using ubiquity ap's.

 

Will I lose the ability of parental control/time scheduling and time limits from the modem?

 

Can I turn off WIFI in the router (I don't want to bridge) and use external AP's and not lose parental control and app features? 

 

I'd use the same DNS servers that Rogers uses (they do need to open this up for OpenDNS features but that another thread)

 

Your help would be appreciated.  I'll try this if the kids decide to leave for a night. If I do get it to work I'll post the what I did .

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Wireless Access Point Use / Turning off Wifi on Rogers Router but Using External Access points. For the most part I'm happy with my Rogers ignite service and modem family feature for parental control/ scheduled downtime and time limits. I don't really want to lose those features. I am not that happy with the wifi.  I do have a couple of pods in the house and can never get more than 50-60 MBS per device. I have 18 devices in the house and mostly 12-16 connected all the time. I'm pretty savvy with wifi being a pro network guy :-). I would love to be able to turn off the WIFI in the router but use access points to give me my coverage using ubiquity ap's.


There are a few users in the Community using Ubiquity Unifi AP's and I'm not aware of anyone reporting any interoperability issues with Ignite TV.  Rogers also used to provide the eero Wi-Fi mesh solution to their customers (they put the eero into bridge mode, so it is essentially an external AP) so you should have access to the same features and conveniences that they do.

 

As for your Pods, I know that they are not known for providing blisteringly fast Wi-Fi but you should be getting better throughput than what you are seeing.

 

Will I lose the ability of parental control/time scheduling and time limits from the modem?

 

Can I turn off WIFI in the router (I don't want to bridge) and use external AP's and not lose parental control and app features?


@Gdkitty  and other eero Wall-to-Wall WiFi users are better people to ask about parental controls and time scheduling.  (I don't use these features so I can't say for sure.)

 

When you disable Wi-Fi on the XB6, it will still have some hidden Wi-Fi networks active.  Before disabling Wi-Fi on the XB6, manually assign channels so as to minimize disruption to you and your neighbours, save the config, then disable Wi-Fi.

 

I'd use the same DNS servers that Rogers uses (they do need to open this up for OpenDNS features but that another thread)


FYI, according to a Rogers Product Manager, "At this time, custom DNS servers aren’t compatible with the Protected Browsing and Parental Control features in Ignite Wi-Fi Hub."