@mascf1 Comcast has X1-based Business TV solutions for Enterprises but I don't how they handle use cases such as the one that you mentioned. Bell has Business TV offerings as well, currently based on Satellite if I am not mistaken, that Rogers needs to be able to compete with more effectively.
I don't know what Rogers has planned, but business solutions are priced, structured and delivered very differently from residential services. IPTV is also an enabler for solutions that Rogers never could have offered with Digital TV. We'll have to wait and see what they announce in advance of the Digital TV service getting shut down.
@toolcubed I also have my screensaver set for 5 minutes. Regardless of what you have that set to, the Ignite set-top box will terminate the network stream after 5 hours of inactivity. However, any activity on the Ignite remote, even changing the volume on the TV, will also ping the set-top box and reset the inactivity timer.
(Try this sometime: Issue the "Sleep Now" voice command. The set-top box will go into standby and its status LED will turn off. Press "Volume +" button. That will wake the STB and its status LED will turn on.)
@mordinxx wrote:
I had Bell Fibe for over 4 years and never had a “Still watching” screen come up or have it go to a screen saver. The reason Rogers has it so they can turn off streaming on unwatched TVs and save themselves $$ by not having to use the band width. This is why they will NEVER change it.
It's not just bandwidth. An active stream also takes up resources on the media streaming servers in the back-end. Rogers would need to provision a lot more capacity (or could even run out of capacity) if too many customers let their set-top boxes run constantly. (I don't know the specifics of how Rogers does capacity planning for Ignite TV, but this is the sort of thing that new IPTV service providers need to plan for as they roll out a new service and then scale it up as their customer base grows.)
As for Bell, even though Fibe TV is currently delivered as multicast streams, they have different capacity planning issues, and do whatever they can to shed unnecessary load from the DSLAMs and ISAMs that service their xDSL customers.
@mordinxx wrote:
So, in other words, you're saying that Rogers can't support ALL it's customers All watching TV at the same time? Still all about the $$.
Of course its about dollars! Even pennies/user matter (and add up very quickly) when you are talking about large-scale infrastructure. You always plan to have excess capacity. However, you also don't want to have too much or too little.
@mascf1 wrote:
I’d like to know how they deal with this for business customers like offices and restaurants. The equipment is the same for both home and business customers using cable, I wouldn’t doubt it’s also the same with Ignite.
I could be wrong but It might be different for business / commercial customers. I see restaurants, convenience stores, doctors offices, dentists, etc who have TVs on constantly and noticed they do NOT go into standby after so many hours. So this leads me to believe Business or commercial accounts have some kind of setting to either change the screen saver timeout or to disable it completely. makes sense if your a restaurant or some place and the tv goes to stand by your customers will be pist.
well, if u want me to be honest with you bell / Bell Alient is the same, it goes to stand by after a few hours too just like ignite, the only exception is also business/commercial establishments too so bars, restaurants, this seems pretty standard across most providers so not sure what the problem is?
@Pauly wrote:
I could be wrong but It might be different for business / commercial customers. I see restaurants, convenience stores, doctors offices, dentists, etc who have TVs on constantly and noticed they do NOT go into standby after so many hours.
Bell offers both Fibe TV and Satellite TV solutions to small businesses; for medium/large solutions, they offer Satellite TV-based services but likely have other custom offerings as well. As far as I know, Rogers currently offers only a Digital TV service to businesses, not Ignite TV.
For the legacy TV technologies, Satellite or Digital TV, idle timeouts are not an issue. I don't know how Bell provisions their IPTV service for businesses but MediaKind (formerly the Media Solutions division of Ericsson) is pretty flexible when it comes to accommodating requests from their customers... so if Bell wants to be able to provision a longer inactivity timeout (or no timeout) for their business or residential customers, they would not have any technical barriers to doing so.
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