Anyplace TV App?

[Tmothy12]

Can you use the Anyplace tv app to set recordings if you don't have the Nextbox Enhanced guide?

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[ash2010]

@57 : Let me explain again. I have the Home Edition app installed on my Android phone. And it live streams on my phone. Then I use chromecast to mirror it on my TV by casting my phone screen. I have been doing it for many months now. As I mentioned, earlier, it worked yesterday night but now gives a new streaming error and I can't watch the channel on my phone. 

It is the Rogers app which has technical fault. Hope you look into it.

[57]

@ash2010 : Although I could be wrong, I'm pretty sure that recently the Home Edition app no longer allows for streaming. I have it installed on my iPad and it will not stream for me any more (when I tested it three weeks back).  It did until quite recently.  I then downloaded the "new" Anyplace TV app on my iPad and it does allow for streaming, as does Anyplace TV using the Chrome Browser on my Mac Mini computer.  I only stream for testing to help other customers here who have difficulties.  (I am not associated with Rogers, I'm just a customer like you)

I understand that Anyplace TV will not work with your system as the new App doesn't allow for "casting", which is unfortunate for those used to that method.

It may have been a fluke that you've been able to make Home Edition work with enough tries, but I believe you'll find that Home Edition will no longer stream properly and you'll need to figure out a way to use Anyplace TV.

[ash2010]

@57 : Thank you for your explanation. You could be right. I had a chat with Rogers technical support and I was told that the streaming feature from Home Edition is being removed. I had it working until last Friday . So I guess we have to use the Anyplace TV app, moving forward. Unfortunately,  "casting"  does not work with Anyplace TV app. Sad !

[gadi]

Yes Rogers has removed the casting /streaming feature of Any Place TV. They want you to have a box. It is backwards thinking as many younger people don't want a cable box, they want wireless thru the internet. Rogers will lose customers, just like the home lines are going the way of the buggy whip. Unfortunate that they don't have the foresight on this.

[ash2010]

Actually, its been working  since a day after I wrote last. 

[gadi]

Perhaps try again. Not working for me or several people that I know and this was confirmed by Rogers tech department

[gadi]

I am referring to the casting/mirroring feature. The app works on a phone, tablet,or computer.

[57]

I think we may need to clarify what we're talking about. The App is working fine for me, however, as mentioned, casting doesn't work any more.

[gadi]

Yes to clarify the casting does not work and this was an intentional decision on the part of Rogers, thinking that people will rent or purchase a cable box to view content on a large screen television. They have made a very bad mistake. There are several services such as Sling TV that you can subscribe to and cast/mirror the same content that is available on Rogers cable for less money I may add. You may also note that another thing that Rogers has done is blacked out certain channels on Anytime TV unless you are on your home network. For example the American networks ABC, CBS and NBC are not viewable unless you are home. What’s up with that?

[ash2010]

Yes, I am referring to cast screen/mirroring from my phone to TV using chrome cast app. I watch it every night. 

[gadi]

Yes to clarify the casting does not work and this was an intentional decision on the part of Rogers, thinking that people will rent or purchase a cable box to view content on a large screen television. They have made a very bad mistake. There are several services such as Sling TV that you can subscribe to and cast/mirror the same content that is available on Rogers cable. You may also note that another thing that Rogers has done is blacked out certain channels on Anytime TV unless you are on your home network. For example the American networks ABC, CBS and NBC are not viewable unless you are home. What’s up with that?

[ash2010]

It does for me. For 3-4 days it was not working so I wrote on this forum. But it has been working again. 

[gadi]

I just tried and it is not working for me. How did you get it to cast? I have both a chromecast and a smart TV

[ash2010]

I believe you are able to mirror the Google home app after you connect to the cast that you have set up.  Check that the app you downloaded is Anyplace TV Home Tablet (ON) app. Now open the app. Click on a channel and click on the  "tablet". You should be able to see the channel. Note that the channels from 1 to maybe 40 do not stream. Try higher channels like 80 HLNHD. Let me know. good luck !

[gadi]

Well why do you think channels 1-40 do not stream? They used to.  In any event it is a moot point. Rogers controls this and they don't want you to cast. So we look to alternatives and there are a number available. Until Rogers wakes up. Legacy businesses try to hold on to the past. Look at the taxi industry and Uber. Look at the hotel industry and Air BnB. Rogers has to move on and let go of the old model of a wired cable box. It will go the way of the dodo bird. In the meantime others will continue to emerge and may very well take over.

[gadi]

I meant to write cast/mirror not stream

[ash2010]

Just in case you are wondering why Rogers is so kind to me, well its not! The live streaming has stopped since a month now. This time looks like its permanent. The replacement Anyplace TV app does not support chromecast mirroring so I have deleted both apps and looking for other options ! Now, you guys can finally say "Join the club" 🙂

[falcios]

Will the Home Edition App continue to be available on ios?

Also, the Home Edition App has two options Guide and Live TV and the guide has all the channels listed even though live TV is not available for all.

At www.rogersanyplacetv.com on Google Chrome when all channels are selected, I don't see all the channels that are available on the Home Edition app?  Is there a reason for this?

Can all the channels on the website match with the ones on the app?

Thanks in advance.

[57]

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@falcios wrote:

1. Will the Home Edition App continue to be available on ios?

2.  At www.rogersanyplacetv.com on Google Chrome when all channels are selected, I don't see all the channels that are available on the Home Edition app?  Is there a reason for this?

Can all the channels on the website match with the ones on the app?

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1. No, see the following:

http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/TV/Important-notice-about-the-Rogers-Anyplace-TV-Home-Edition-a...

2. The two apps are two different databases.  The AnyplaceTV web version is not a very good interface and the issues regarding the channels have been reported.  The app appears to be better, although I have no real use for either of them until manage PVR comes to AnyplaceTV.  Perhaps once Home Edition no longer takes up any of Rogers' time, they can make the appropriate corrections to Anyplace Web, although I'm not holding my breath since not many people seem to use computers to interface any more, so I don't know if those sorts of issues will ever be fixed.

[BS]

Once again, I will go to the stats - In April, market share of computers sold in Canada 55%, tablets and smartphones, 45%.

So, I guess that users of online media viewing are doing so on smartphones and tablets - not me -

Not my daughter and son in law who built their own high end gaming and media server.

Not my other daughter and partner who use their laptop for watching most of their TV, rarely turn on their set top box or TV.

So, I guess you and my family and me, we seem to reflect either a minority of people who use Anyplace TV - I don't use it, although I do use it to watch tv on my older SD TV that has VGA input - unlike casting or using an HDMI cord from a laptop or smartphone or tablet, the software can't override the VGA output, because that is how laptops output media to the laptop screen, or to a monitor.

I only used the Anyplace TV App on the Web page for managing my PVR, and until the home edition was shut down, used it.

So for now, I use my wife, since I can't work the control for the PVR and the remote due to visual issues.

But that is an old story, and Rogers is stuck.

Comcast has dropped their legacy app connection now too, and reports are that Shaw's legacy app has been failing on and off, and like the Rogers version has always been not overly stable - so my guess - too much work to maintain that single legacy app, and it is still silent on the legal front - there is supposed to be an appeal going forward on the first Riko/Tivo suit that took this feature and one other away from Comcast platform, and 2 new ones filed that haven't gone to court.  Comcast's position is they are going to fight it strongly, so unless Comcast, or the other suppliers finds a way to produce an alternative that doesn't infringe on the questioned licenses, I don't think we will be seeing the feature for a while.

We remain stuck with the mediocre Navigatr PVR guide and interface, that the web and app interface allowed many users who reported on this forum to work with the deficiencies of the box itself.  So for now, we can't set or check recordings while away from home (sorry vacationers), you don't have an accommodation for visual and print cognition disabilities (sorry people who are disabled and it supported their use of their PVR's and in one reported case was the only way they could access the PVR), and if you didn't like or feel comfortable with what the end product of the guide and pvr setting process was on the box from remote (sorry to you too).

We are kind of stuck under a rock and a hard place until Comcast settles the license issues - under the current ruling, they can't even ship the Arris and Technicolor equipment into the US or distribute to Canada with the software installed.  It has to have the software installed once it arrives with the offending license issues removed.

But, Comcast has just negotiated for Netflix, Amazon Prime and YouTube subscriptions to run on the boxes, and along with their cloud storage, the voice remote, the pause and play on different devices (the last two are being contested by Tivo in the recent submission), but the ruling that Comcast cannot ship the boxes loaded and assembled out of the US is now in place as they had 60 days to figure out what they would do.  So what I have read is they will install the "crippled" version of the Software once imported into the US with no software installed at all.

All companies are counting on the hope that people will pay more for the bells and whistles of the new model, that these new features will overcome the current loss of some features due to licensing until they get that worked out - .25 per box was the figure I read for the full licensing set and guide.  I am sure there will be many who will make the shift - some people like new stuff and are willing and have the financial cash flow to do so - for them enjoy, but for some of us, we will just sit as long as we can and keep our prices as low as our budgets can handle.

Bruce

So we wait.

Quick edit:  Just checked the home app - it is still functioning at the moment - guess it will go down at some point.

Bruce

[57]

Why does Anyplace not show PBSW in the listings (Channel 532)?  I record programmes here all the time because they're not always the same as PBSE (525) and because they air after prime time.

I always used Home Edition and it worked. Why not Anyplace?  I was searching for Dr. Blake Mystery and was wondering why I couldn't find it - then I looked for channel 532 and it wasn't there. There are lots of other channels that are missing from Anyplace too, even when "All Channels" are selected.

Since Rogers is hoping to "sell" more channels, it would be good if they were all listed so that when someone searched and found a programme on the channel to which they don't subscribe, perhaps they'll subscribe.