UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

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malcolmd
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

That would be nice to try - but I don't even see a Settings menu, just a blank screen with "Rogers Navigatr Settings" at the top. Got my "upgrade" last week.
User14
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

 This problem was reported by someone earlier when I searched for "settings".   I think it was gdkitty, an uppaid resident expert, who said it was a glitch when I read the thread. Solutions to issues are difficult to find on this board. I have had lots of problems with this new navigatr application from runaway recordings to frozen screens. I found that unplugging the box and letting it reboot seemed to clear most hand-ups. Try that first to see if the settings options reappear.  

 

scuddycat
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016


@malcolmd wrote:

Apologies if this is addressed somewhere and I missed it ... my issue is: where is the "Settings" menu?  I can get to the Settings screen but all I see is a blank screen with "Rogers Navigatr Settings" at the top. There are a number of "features" that I would like to change the default for, if that is possible So far I am less than impressed - seems like several functions require substantially more key presses.


You have likely run into the same bug I have.  I got "upgraded" a week ago and still can't see any settings.  There has been a ticket open on the issue all that time.  Twice I've been told the problem has been fixed (via an automated recorded message) but it still hasn't.  I've been told there are only 2 "fixes".  Either get a new box or do a factory reset.  Both options will cause you to lose all of your recorded content.  If that isn't an issue for you, that's likely the only solution.  If it is, then you'll have to live with that problem along with all of the others that Navigatr has.

scuddycat
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016


@trendsetter wrote:

With the previous menu system when I searched for a program, it would show me all of the upcoming dates and times so I could select which one I wanted. In Navigatr, it only displays the first showing of the program. Where is the capability to display all show dates and times for upcoming week? Without this capability it makes this system useless.


It's gone, like so many of the other useful features of the old system.  Sadly, the only options are to either get used to it or move to Bell.  Rogers isn't bothering to fix anything.  They've know about these issues for months since the summer release and addressed very little in this latest release.

scuddycat
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016


@User14 wrote:

 This problem was reported by someone earlier when I searched for "settings".   I think it was gdkitty, an uppaid resident expert, who said it was a glitch when I read the thread. Solutions to issues are difficult to find on this board. I have had lots of problems with this new navigatr application from runaway recordings to frozen screens. I found that unplugging the box and letting it reboot seemed to clear most hand-ups. Try that first to see if the settings options reappear.  

 


My boxes have been rebooted several times and that hasn't fixed anything.  I still can't see my settings (blank page), so I can't do a factory reset...at least not that way.  There may also me a series of keypresses on the front of the box that will cause a factory reset.  Not sure.  BUT, if you do, you will LOSE all of your recordings.

scuddycat
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016


@Customer01 wrote:

@RogersHassam wrote:

Hello Community, 

 

Please be assured that we read each and every post in the Forums. None of your feedback is being ignored and it gets passed along to the appropriate teams that track issues and work towards resolving any known problems that may exist for multiple users. I can understand the frustration with some of the issues users are experiencing appreciate your continued feedback and suggestions for improvement. 

 

Thank you, 

RogersHassam 


RogersHassam,

The problem is twofold:

1) The new software has some huge problems, is worse than the previous one, and should never have been released in that condition.

2) Nobody from Rogers senior management is being honest and acknowledging this, and offering a plan to resolve it.

 

I suggest:

1) A letter from senior management to customers, apologising, and putting forward a plan for resolution.

2) A survey to all customers to find out ALL the issues they are having.

3) Go back to the old software in the meantime.

 

Since, 6 months after the initial release, there has been so little progress, it would be a fair assumption that this could take a year to fix....if it is even going to be fixed.   I don't plan to stick around waiting that long, especially in the face of Rogers stonewalling of customers.

 

 


That solution makes so much sense and is the only thing that would keep me as a Rogers customer.  As a 30 year customer, this isn't the first time I've seen this behaviour from Rogers.   The only thing that's clear to me is that Rogers isn't owning up to this one.  The fact that they remain silent in spite of all of the issues and even pushed it out again recently (and continue to do so despite the strong opposition) tells me that Rogers doesn't care about our voices.  We are told they are listening, but their actions (or inactions) speak louder than those hollow words.  

 

If I don't hear anything along these lines from Rogers, Bell is going to get my business.  

scuddycat
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016


@BS wrote:

@park

 

You are right on that one - If we had an update from this cordination team on what they are doing, signed by the update team, it would go a long way.  I believe the moderator that they are listening and passing them to some group, they have assured us of this many times, but neither they or us have ever heard anything.

 

Even with the bug fix builds in November/December/January, the customer and support people were never given any information on what was dealt with, how it works, and what was not dealt with because it won't be, or what has been set aside.

 

In absence, I like Park are left wondering if there really is an active team up there somewhere who are actually doing anything with the information, or are they in a listening mode too?

 

I am not being cyncial here or trying to be a trouble maker, it is just that I have worked in this field for many a year, my daughter also works in it and has extremely high level experience and training in doing the system development and implementation and testing, and bug fixing, and documentation, and we in the field have seen this in our careers, and never in my experience have I ever experienced this level of silence and absence of communications of actions planned, or taken for that matter, except for me in one - the company was on its way to being merged with another company.

 

I think some of this is happening, not with Rogers, but with your suppliers.

 

So I empathize with the moderators and all staff at the bottom levels, but I don't accet the way senior management and executives have approached this whole mess.

 

As a paying customer, I expect a certain level of respect to get answers when I have concerns, and this has been very lacking from the senior levels.

 

I again say tonight, that I am hopeful that Rogers will learn from this one. Yes things can go wrong in technology as in any project of large scale, even getting my bathroom renovated), but communication to the customer is critical if you want to keep your loyal customers, get new customers, and not force people to leave.  There is only so much any person can put up with.

 

Bed time for me now - We could go at this non stop with no resolutions until someone from on high finally comes forward with feedback from what has been listened to.

 

Brce


Another well said post!

malcolmd
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

Yes - how do you do a factory reset without access to the settings menu? I tried a power off reboot but that didn't work.
Gdkitty
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

For the BLANK settings screen.

On other forums, i have heard that SOME have some luck, with hitting MENU, then Settings.  Takes you to the same settings screen, but for some it did cause it to populate.

It may not work for all, but worth a shot.

 

The Settings screen should say SETTINGS at the top, the down the left side, Appearance, Audio, etc.
The right side will not populate until you choose an option from the left.



malcolmd
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

PVR is currently loading software update - let's hope that fixes it.