UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

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Roadieyo
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

Well, didn't think they could make a TV Guide this complicated... but they did.

The previous guide allowed you to see what channel you were recording...and at what time.  This new guide doesn't let you see anything except the title of the show.

 

Also... I tried to use the filter button to see ONLY my scheduled recordings, but it just sits there and nothing happens.  Some of the scheduled recordings that are displayed have since been cancelled...and I don't know how to delete them.

 

Recording used to be so simple - now, there are several steps to follow just to record a program.  There must be a better, simpler way to watch TV and record our shows!!

 

If anyone has any suggestions as to how I can view ONLY my scheduled recordings, please let me know.

Johnrc123
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

I confess I'm a bit confused as to why the other thread "New Nextbox Navigator" was closed. The moderator announced that "With the updated Navigatr rollout now complete, I'm closing this thread and directing all posts to the updated Navigatr thread. "

 

Does this mean that there is a newer version of Navigatr than what we were given? If not, then I'd still greatly appreciate any help with the questions I posted over there (which people can no longer respond to). It went a little like this:

 

K, I'm just never going to make it through 166 pages in this thread alone to see if these other issues have been resolved so can anyone tell me....

 

  •  Is there a way to get back to a 'List View' of titles as opposed to these wastefully large thumbnail graphics/tiles? No Page Up/Down, or wrap-around scrolling to mitigate for now? (MIcrosoft CEO dumped partially over the Win8 tile debacle... anyone paying attention?)

 

  • why do we have duplicates of these wastefully large graphic tiles? One series shows a row of 7 of the same graphic for separate episodes, and one of those contains 3 episodes(!). I presume the latter is a 'folder' and that I'm supposed to know that?

 

  • If the above means episodes were recorded on different channels, I can't see that. Is the channel recorded on listed somewhere like it was before?

 

  • A while ago Rogers introduced a GREAT feature to Select All (episodes in a folder) while still able to deselect individually (yellow button). Please tell me they haven't removed that functionality. This and the fact that what were once 1 or 2 clicks away, like CC and Watch Live, seem to now be buried in more menus and sub menus makes me wonder how we can be told Navigatr makes things "faster" and "easier". I will not be easily hypnotized. 

 

  • Half of these wastefully large tiles have no graphic, and no content. Only the title on black. Please don't tell me these were deleted in Rogers 'upgrade'. Entire unwatched series gone???

 

I did see others mention the overall pain trying to read horribly small fonts, or small fonts on low contrast, unintuitive menu navigation, etc. which are all unfortunately inherently part of the overall design. Wow. Such a long way to go. And to think I used to complain about eyeball-searing red on black. Please bring back the eyeball-searing. I promise to be good. 

Gdkitty
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

The other thread was closed, as it was more about the 1.0 rollout of navigatr.. which came out before xmas and was halted.  This is more Navigatr 2.0.

 

- No, there is no way to back to the list way 😞
- Likely what has happened here.. least from what i know... if you have CSI for example.  You have a series shedule for it, should put all those in one tile/folder.  But you end up recording one on another channel.. that puts it in another folder.. a manual one.. another folder.  WHY they did it this way.. i would rather them in one name folder.. then identifiers inside.
- Blank tiles.  Give it time.. usually under a day or so.  MOST of those should populate with the images.
As for the blank/empty folders.. these are ones which there are 'series' recordinds that are or were set at some point.  The show may not air anymore, so hasnt recorded on in a year.. but the schedule was still there.  You could go through and remove all those.



robindp
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

A tip - called tech support last week to say that no tile art was present. The engineer "sent a signal" and asked me to reboot the PVR - 20 minutes later, 95% of the tiles had art on them.

I did not get an explanation as to why this didn't happen automatically.
park
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

Spoiler
 

Johnrc123 wrote:

I confess I'm a bit confused as to why the other thread "New Nextbox Navigator" was closed. The moderator announced that "With the updated Navigatr rollout now complete, I'm closing this thread and directing all posts to the updated Navigatr thread. "

 

CLOSED CAUSE THE REALLY TERIBLE JULY 28 NAVI WHICH WAS LA

Johnrc123 wrote:

I confess I'm a bit confused as to why the other thread "New Nextbox Navigator" was closed. The moderator announced that "With the updated Navigatr rollout now complete, I'm closing this thread and directing all posts to the updated Navigatr thread. "

 

CLOSED CAUSE THE EALLY TERIBLE JULY 28 NAVI WHICH WAS LOADED INTO A FEW AREA BEFORE BEING STOPPED, HAS BEEN REPLACED BY THE UPGRADED NOT AS BAD VERSION.

 

 

Does this mean that there is a newer version of Navigatr than what we were given? If not, then I'd still greatly appreciate any help with the questions I posted over there (which people can no longer respond to). It went a little like this:

 NO YOU GOT THE LATEST.

K, I'm just never going to make it through 166 pages in this thread alone to see if these other issues have been resolved so can anyone tell me....

 

  •  Is there a way to get back to a 'List View' of titles as opposed to these wastefully large thumbnail graphics/tiles? No Page Up/Down, or wrap-around scrolling to mitigate for now? (MIcrosoft CEO dumped partially over the Win8 tile debacle... anyone paying attention?)

 NO NOT IN THIS VERSION, PERHAPS NEVER.

  • why do we have duplicates of these wastefully large graphic tiles? One series shows a row of 7 of the same graphic for separate episodes, and one of those contains 3 episodes(!). I presume the latter is a 'folder' and that I'm supposed to know that?

 EACH PROGRAM IS A SEPARATE TILE. UNLESS YOU SET UP A SERIES.

  • If the above means episodes were recorded on different channels, I can't see that. Is the channel recorded on listed somewhere like it was before?
  • WHO CARES ABOUT CHANNELS ITS THE VISUAL PIC AND PROGRM YOU SHOULD CARE ABOUT !

 

  • A while ago Rogers introduced a GREAT feature to Select All (episodes in a folder) while still able to deselect individually (yellow button). Please tell me they haven't removed that functionality. This and the fact that what were once 1 or 2 clicks away, like CC and Watch Live, seem to now be buried in more menus and sub menus makes me wonder how we can be told Navigatr makes things "faster" and "easier". I will not be easily hypnotized. 
  • WE NEVER TEST NEW STUFF ON REAL USERS. WE KNOW BEST WHAT YOU NEED.

 

  • Half of these wastefully large tiles have no graphic, and no content. Only the title on black. Please don't tell me these were deleted in Rogers 'upgrade'. Entire unwatched series gone???
  • IF YOUR TILE HAS NO GRAPHICS ITS CAUSE ITS ODDBALL STUFF LIKE ON PBS THAT NO ONE WATCHES

 

I did see others mention the overall pain trying to read horribly small fonts, or small fonts on low contrast, unintuitive menu navigation, etc. which are all unfortunately inherently part of the overall design. Wow. Such a long way to go. And to think I used to complain about eyeball-searing red on black. Please bring back the eyeball-searing. I promise to be good. 

 CRTC RECD. OMPLAINTS ABOUT SMALL FONTS, SO WE CHANGED THEM TO APPEAR LARGER. 


User14
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

We had a 1 hour program scheduled to tape at 3 pm today.  It continued taping for 4 hrs: 42mins.  We ended the taping session for the program, but the screen for the program stayed on the screen. EXIT would not return to the normal screen mode.  Even turning the Cable Box off didn't work. The YES-NO screen to end programming came back when we turned the TV back on.   We had to unplug and reboot. 

 

What is going on with this new Navigatr Guide software?  

 

Gdkitty
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

Even on previous firmware, i have heard of people having the ocassional runaway recording.. 

 

Yours is the first specific person i have heard happen so far on Navigatr...

Would guess this is the same bug.. not navigatr specific?



Steelheader
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

Thanks, Spoiler. These are some of the same issues I have. Take a look at BS's comments below and you can imagine the circus of goings on that are happening at Rogers. They are behind due to commitments to Espial and what they have. Bell is miles ahead now working with Cloud storage.
User14
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

For info.

The next scheduled program started and stopped on time.  Thankfully we noticed it and I rebooted the machine after it froze. Otherwise it would have recorded all night. I hope Rogers sorts out this glitch. I have rebooted 7 times so far this week.  Not good! 

Steelheader
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Re: UPDATED NextBox Navigatr - December 2015/January 2016

Hey there User14: I think Houston (Rogers) we have a problem. Keep the specific issues coming in so they can retrieve them and respond to them. Thnx