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Adding a third TV?

We have two TVs and two cable boxes going from two of the 4 outputs on an amplifier in the basement. 

 

We want to put a third TV in the basement.   Do we have to add a third cable from output 3 to a third cable box?

Or, is there a way of connecting the third TV to one of the other cable boxes?  Right now my wife has to separately program the PVRs and then remember which PVR she saved the program. Ideally, she wants to program one PVR but watch the program from any of the three TVs (upstair, main floor and basement).   Is this even technically possible?  

 

 

 

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Hey @User14,

 

Do you already have an active outlet in the basement? I'm not familiar with the set up you're referring to but I'm sure @57 or @Gdkitty will be best able to answer your inquiry.

 

 

 

 

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@User14 it sounds like you want to run an HDMI splitter to feed one of the connected TVs upstairs, and then use the split HDMI output to feed a TV in the basement.  That could work if you happen to have an ethernet cable available that runs from upstairs to the basement.  That would allow you to run HDMI over ethernet, feeding off of the HDMI splitter.  Something like these for example:

 

https://www.amazon.ca/Goronya-Splitter-Amplifier-Support-1080P/dp/B01EN5ER4M/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?hvadid=...

 

https://www.bestproducts.com/tech/electronics/g1668/best-hdmi-splitters/

 

 

https://www.startech.com/ca/AV/Extenders/HDMI/HDMI-over-Cat5-Cat6-extender~ST121HDBTPW

 

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=8121

 

https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=hdmi+over+ethernet&hvadid=208333453673&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000690&hvnetw=g&h...

 

The only caveat is that you might have to pay attention to the HDMI version # and HDCP version in order to get the highest performance out of the tv in the basement. 

 

Have a look at the following extender from Amazon.ca and have a look at the bottom left hand network diagram.  I didn't think that was possible, but, looks like it is.  If you happen to have any unused Cat5 runs, this could be a possibility:

 

https://www.amazon.ca/Cable-Matters-HDMI-Extender-Ethernet/dp/B07NBR7BLC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?hvadid=2083...

 

If you happen to have an extra RG6 cable run from upstairs to downstairs, and didn't have a similar ethernet run, then you could use an HDMI to cable adapter at both ends.  Something like this;

 

https://www.amazon.com/single-Extender-Sender-Receiver-connection/dp/B00HWIWEMU

 

So this gets a little convoluted depending on what cable type you have available between the upstairs PVR and the downstairs TV.  It can be done, but it might not be cheap, and at the end of the day, after running thru splitters and adapters, you might not like the end product.  Just depends how good or poor the final product looks when viewed on the downstairs tv. 

 

As for wanting to "program one PVR but watch the program from any of the three TVs (upstair, main floor and basement)", I don't know why @RogersZia didn't address this already.  As far as I'm aware, the Whole Home PVR, if you had that running would allow you to record on one PVR and watch it on any connected PVR.  With the release of the Ignite TV set top box (Xi6a), Rogers appears to have halted any further installation of the Whole Home PVR configuration.  So, if you don't have Whole Home PVR already running, you're out of luck.   Looks like that's a choice Rogers has made to force customers towards the Ignite TV system, where that capability to watch a recorded show on any set top box also exists.   @RogersZia can confirm/clarify the Whole Home PVR situation. 



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@User14 : Here are my comments.

 

1. The HDMI splitter option mentioned is possible, but often not that cheap and it means that you must watch the same programming on both TVs using that box.  You, of course, would also need to control that box from the "far" TV, so that requires an RF remote or a remote extender of some kind.  This sort of setup is usually beyond most people, so you may need an installer.

 

2. You would probably be better off with another box, however, this doesn't give you WHPVR capability. WHPVR is not being provided to customers who don't already have it, so you're out of luck if you don't already have it, which it sounds like you don't.

 

3. You could switch to IgniteTV which gives you WHPVR capability and everything you want. You may wish to read up on that option in this forum. There are lots of existing threads on IgniteTV.



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@57 wrote:

3. You could switch to IgniteTV which gives you WHPVR capability and everything you want. You may wish to read up on that option in this forum. There are lots of existing threads on IgniteTV.


@Datalink  and @57 Thanks for your info.  I started reading:

https://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/TV/IGNITE-TV-vs-CABLE-DIGITAL-IGNITE-LOSES/m-p/441615#M50634

 

It looks like your geographic location, your TV, your PVR, the software and the wiring have a lot to do with your picture quality (PQ) and your quality of support.  There is also a Benefit/Cost to making this simple change of adding one TV to the mix.  Maybe I should just stay digital for now and add the third TV with an RG6 cable from the signal amplifier I have in the basement.  It means adding another cable box.

 

Going with Ignite seems like I may have to run a gauntlet of Klingon pain sticks.

 

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@Datalink  I have done the research on adding a SMART TV to my current configuration using Ignite but it seems everything now requires ethernet (CAT5 or  CAT6) wiring.  Since I like the "hardwire" reliability over "wifi"  how should I modify my current wiring diagram (below) for my configuration?  The yellow box shows the "Third TV" that I want to add.  I was assured that somehow the other two TVs would record and playback with the new PVR but they must be assuming I have wifi receivers with the other TVs, not hardwire. 

Home -TV - Internet Configuration.jpg

 

To add a new 4K PVR for a SMART TV it only has an ethernet input and HDMI output to the TV.  Here is what I think I need using ethernet cables (see below). I will obviously need a newer faster modem for the 4K capable PVR + new SMART TV.  Someone told me that I could also connect the non-SMART TVs through the Router to the PC and make them SMART TVs! Interesting but not necessary at this point!  Another idea suggested was to get a Motorola Adapter (MM1000) and connect the ethernet cable from the modem to the adapter, then connect an RG6 cable output to the two non-SMART TVs as before. 

It is a bit of a puzzle for the wiring.

Any clues on what is the simplest configuration for the end state?? 

 

Home Phone - TV - Internet Future Configuration.jpg

 

PS.  During a transition, I believe you can simply plug in the old PVRs and watch any old recorded programs you have, assuming they are not rented but owned. (yellow box above)