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Using the MF271 as a modem with an external router

Hi everyone,

 

I've been trying to set up my rocket hub (MF271) as a modem and then use an external router to broadcast the signal with a better range than the MF271's built in one. But I can't seem to get it to work. When I plug the ethernet cable directly into the d-link router i can't seem to get it to work. 

 

I don't know if there's a way to put the MF271 into Bridge mode or if I have to use port forwarding or something along those lines. Hopefully someone can give me some pointers any help would be greatly apprecieated

 

 

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Rogers Employee ShakTiburon
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Re: Using the MF271 as a modem with an external router

@jramsay Hello!

Welcome to the community 🙂

 

I don't think 3G/LTE Modems are the samething as regular modem...
Never the less, your router should still be able to do this.

Make sure you are plugging your router into the "Internet" port not the "1" port.

Secondly, your MF271 can be "technically" put into bridge mode.

I remember doing this with an older rocket hub modem in my cottage a while back, where I turned off the wifi on the router and used "1" and connected it to my router "Internet" slot. (It was also a D-Link DIR615 or something DIR655 maybe. whatever that white flat box with 3 antenna is...)

Hope this helps?

@Datalink @Gdkitty - would you guys know more about this? I know you guys are more cable internet savvy.

But ever played around with a Rocket Hub before?

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Re: Using the MF271 as a modem with an external router

ZTE MF271 10 ip address limit

 

I recently upgraded (or so I thought) from the Netcom "Rocket Hub" i got in 2013 which connected at 3G, to the current model offered by Rogers, the ZTE MF271.

 

I did a speed test comparison with both connected and the ZTE is 2 to 3 times faster downloads.

 

I use the device at a location in rural Ontario with no other high speed internet source but with reasonable cellular service.

 

I was also happy to see that Rogers now offers higher useage data plans for these devices (up to 100 GB/month) compared to my old plan where overage kicked in at 20GB, so I also upgraded my data plan.

 

When I picked up the ZTE device the Rogers store told me it was good for up to 10 users.  At the time I didnt realize that this was not just a guideline but rather the device is hard coded to only permit 10 ip addresses assigned!

 

As with most families, now with multiple devices per person, it doesnt take very long to run out of ip's.   I also have three wifi cameras and a wifi thermostat and all these count as part of the 10.

 

I never had this problem with the Netcom.  Right in the settings menu of the ZTE there is a drop down menu for numbe of users and the max is 10.

 

According to both the ZTE company and Rogers Tech Support, the ZTE MF271 cannot be bridged to an external router (i.e. to permit more IP's).

 

There is a setting to disable the Wifi on the ZTE and I was hoping, though I have not yet tested, attaching an external router to the ethernet jack with the Wifi disabled will permit a separate router to take over.

 

I cannot understand why Rogers would select a product to restrict the number of users to 10, when they are in the business of selling data.....why bother then upgrading their data plans?

 

Has anyone found a workaround to the problem I describe.

 

Thanks for any assistance.

 

 

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Retired Moderator RogersArthur
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Re: Using the MF271 as a modem with an external router

Hi @,

 

Thank You for your post and Welcome to the forums. Smiley Happy

 

I understand you've upgraded from a Netcom Rocket Hub and you're looking for a workaround to connecting more than 10 devices to the Internet using your new ZTE MF271 Rocket Hub. Although the  ZTE Rocket Hub cannot be bridged, any workaround would involve pros and cons. This would be to have a second router set to access point mode, it would grab one of the 10 wireless IP addresses from the ZTE Rocket Hub . Once that router is connected to the Internet, any devices connected to the routers WiFi should be able to connect to the Internet, this would allow your multiple devices/more than 10 to connect. However The Con may potentially be limited connectivity, two different WiFi networks (so devices may not see each other), we can't guarantee service through the other router, custom settings maybe difficult, slow performance due to the extra firewall/WiFi security and limited support from both device manufactures (don't worry you have your new Rogers Community Forums family, we'll try our best Smiley Wink). The Pro would basically be your workaround, allowing more than 10 devices to connect to the Internet through both the router and the ZTE Rocket Hub. 

 

 

Tell us if everything works out,
RogersArthur

Rogers Employee ShakTiburon
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Re: Using the MF271 as a modem with an external router

@RogersArthur
question, wouldn't running it as access point mean it is the same wifi? (SSID is cloned?)
I only thought the Con was the throughput decreases but devices won't actually see two different network.
The rocket hub doesn't need to be bridged either; as access point doesn't do it's own routing...

That is what I learned myself through previous experience and with are local REs here. o___o"
Would that not resolve @Breeze99 concerns?

and you are right about performance impact (That is what I meant by throughput) that would be a Con.

Retired Moderator RogersArthur
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Re: Using the MF271 as a modem with an external router

Hi @ShakTiburon,

 

 

Thank you for your insight on this situation.
 

Your question regarding running it as an access point means it is the same WiFi? Also For the access point not doing it's own routing, you're correct! @Breeze99 can physically connect a router to the ZTE Rocket Hub via Ethernet, with the router set to access point mode and if it works both devices will be on one sub network. Just keep in mind the ZTE Rocket Hub is not designed to be configured as an access point so it will not change it's sub network. If a router set to access point mode requires the other device / router to be set to bridge mode it may not work properly. Because the ZTE Rocket Hub is not designed to be set to bridge mode. That's where a workaround comes to play, with the help from custom settings (disable WiFi) and troubleshooting this should help with connecting more than 10 WiFi users which, is what @Breeze99 is looking for.

 


Regards,
RogersArthur

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Re: Using the MF271 as a modem with an external router

I've been trying to do as much research as I can in anticipation for a move to the country where Rogers is my only option for high-speed internet.

 

After reading the posts in this topic, I'm looking for some clarification on something.

 

My current setup at home is with the local cable company and my third-party router, where the cable internet modem feeds into my router which in turn assigns the IPs and broadcasts the WiFi for my local devices.

 

From what I understand now, and I hope I'm wrong, I wouldn't have the option to connect from the Rogers HUB to my third-party router and have my router do all the work of DHCP and WiFi broadcasting?

Rogers Employee ShakTiburon
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Re: Using the MF271 as a modem with an external router

@JT85

Correct. Routing would have disconnects since HUB will do routing as well 😕
You can set your router to not route but just be an access point - But DHCP would be controlled in HUB and Wifi Broadcast can be done by Router (which would act as Wifi Access Point and no Routing).
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Re: Using the MF271 as a modem with an external router

Shucks, that's almost a deal breaker for me.
Does the MF271 broadcast at 5GHz ?
Does it have port-forwarding capabilities ?
Rogers Employee ShakTiburon
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Re: Using the MF271 as a modem with an external router

Port-forward yes.
5GHZ I don't think so, I can double check...

I think you'll be fine, as long as your router doesn't do routing.

 

Edit:

Yep, doesn't do 5ghz

 

 

HSPA Bands: 1900/850 MHz
LTE Bands: 2100/2600 MHz
Download/Upload Speed: Up to 75/25Mbps
Wi-Fi Version: 802.11 b/g/n
Wi-Fi Calling (UMA): No
GPS: No
A-GPS: Yes
Bluetooth: No
Near Field Communication (NFC): No
Data Cable Supported: Yes – USB Data Cable
Infrared: No