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Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

Double_K
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Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

Mike2011
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Hi,

 

I made the changes as suggested.

 

Here's the info from the DOCSIS WAN screen:

 

Downstream Overview
Port ID Frequency (MHz) Modulation Signal strength (dBmV) Channel ID Signal noise ratio (dB)
1 615000000 256QAM -3.500 35 38.605
2 363000000 256QAM -2.800 10 37.636
3 369000000 256QAM -2.900 11 37.636
4 375000000 256QAM -2.800 12 37.636
5 381000000 256QAM -3.100 13 37.636
6 387000000 256QAM -3.300 14 37.636
7 393000000 256QAM -3.800 15 37.636
8 399000000 256QAM -4.100 16 37.636
9 405000000 256QAM -4.600 17 37.356
10 411000000 256QAM -5.100 18 37.636
11 417000000 256QAM -4.800 19 37.636
12 423000000 256QAM -4.300 20 37.636
13 429000000 256QAM -3.700 21 37.636
14 435000000 256QAM -3.000 22 38.605
15 441000000 256QAM -3.000 23 38.983
16 447000000 256QAM -2.800 24 38.605
17 555000000 256QAM -2.800 25 38.605
18 561000000 256QAM -2.800 26 37.636
19 567000000 256QAM -3.100 27 38.605
20 573000000 256QAM -3.400 28 38.605
21 579000000 256QAM -3.700 29 38.605
22 585000000 256QAM -3.100 30 38.605
23 591000000 256QAM -3.100 31 38.983
24 597000000 256QAM -3.500 32 38.605
25 603000000 256QAM -3.800 33 38.605
26 609000000 256QAM -3.700 34 38.605
27 357000000 256QAM -2.600 9 37.636
28 621000000 256QAM -3.400 36 38.605
29 633000000 256QAM -2.900 37 38.605
30 639000000 256QAM -2.700 38 38.605
31 645000000 256QAM -2.500 39 38.605
32 651000000 256QAM -2.200 40 38.605
OFDM Downstream Overview
Receiver FFT type Subcarr 0 Frequency(MHz) PLC locked NCP locked MDC1 locked PLC power(dBmv)
0 NA NA NO NO NO NA
1 NA NA NO NO NO NA
Upstream Overview
Port ID Frequency (MHz) Modulation Signal strength (dBmV) Channel ID Bandwidth
1 30596000 ATDMA - 64QAM 31.500 4 6400000
2 38595746 ATDMA - 64QAM 34.500 6 3200000
3 23700000 ATDMA - 64QAM 30.250 5 6400000
OFDM/OFDMA Overview
Channel Index State lin Digital Att Digital Att BW (sc's*fft) Report Power Report Power1_6 FFT Size
0 DISABLED 0.5000 0.0000 0.0000 -inf -1.0000 4K
1 DISABLED 0.5000 0.0000 0.0000 -inf -1.0000 4K

 
 

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

JMAC2
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Mike
i am unable to log into the hitron now as it is in bridge mode with my router connected to it so i am able to run a web server (dyndns) that monitors my aquarium parameters. I can log into my Linksys router but that's it

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

Hybrid_Noodle
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@JMAC2 you can still log into the modem in bridge mode with the IP address of 192.168.100.1.

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

JMAC2
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no luck with cusadmin "password"

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

Hybrid_Noodle
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The password will be whatever you setup as the SSID password in non bridge mode.

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

JMAC2
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@Double_K

out of curiosity what type of internet connection do u set the router to if the Hitron is set to bridge mode? is it bridge also or automatic DHCP

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

JMAC2
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neither work now......don't know why

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

Datalink
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If you set the modem to run in Bridge mode, the router will have to run in full router mode.  On newer routers there is usually a mode selection of Router, Access Point or Bridge mode. 

 

In router mode, the router acts as the firewall, DHCP server and wired and wifi access point.  The modem should be running in Bridge mode to avoid a double NAT situation which can cause problems for devices connected to the router.

 

In Access point mode, the router DHCP is probably disabled automatically as is the firewall.  The modem will be operating in Gateway mode, providing the firewall and DHCP server. 

 

In Bridge mode, the router acts as the last half of a wifi bridge, to which you connect ethernet devices.  The DHCP server and firewall probably disable automatically when you select the router's Bridge mode.  The modem operates in Gateway mode with the wifi running, providing the first half of the wifi bridge,  and providing the firewall and DHCP server for the entire network.  This operating mode would be selected if the modem was parked at a location that was less than ideal for example, while your ethernet devices are parked elsewhere in the home.  In lieu of a powerline connection, or snaking an ethernet cable from one location to the other to provide the data path back to the modem, a wifi bridge is used in its place. 

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

@Mike2011 Your signal levels looks fine, give it a couple days and see if things improve with your issues.

Rogers is doing A LOT of changes in the back end right now, so give it time, things will improve.

 

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

JMAC2
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my Linksys EA4500 has options of:
Automatic Configuration-DHCP
Static IP
PPPoE
PPTP
L2TP
Bridge Mode
i have it set to Auto Config DHCP but not sure if this is correct? & Hitron is set to Bridge

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

yyzsam
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You have the correct setting.

Make sure you have the Ethernet cable plugged into the WAN port of the Linksys.

Start with a fresh boot of both devices, pull the plug wait a bit and then plug in the CODA and wait for it to finish booting and syncing. Then power on the Linksys and it should grab an IP from the modem.

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

yyzsam
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If you haven't done it lately, update the firmware of your Linksys when you get this working.

http://www.linksys.com/us/support-article?articleNum=148385

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

JMAC2
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thanks i was unsure because it doesn't seem near as fast now as it was without the router but i need it for the aquarium server

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

JMAC2
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firmware is up to date

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

Datalink
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@JMAC2, here's a simple test you can do to check the difference in performance, modem versus router. 

 

Run a speedtest using the www.speedtest.net Toronto Rogers or Montreal Rogers server.  Run that speedtest thru the router to an ethernet connected pc.  Then disconnect the pc from the router, plug it into one of the modem ports and reboot the pc.  After the reboot, open a web browser and navigate to ipv6-test.com   That site will test for both IPV4 and IPV6 addresses and capability.  The CODA-4582 currently has its IPV6 disabled, so you should end up with a score of 4/20 for an IPV4 addresss.  Run the same speedtest. 

 

I think you will find that the router limits your data rate simply due to the processor capability.  What you decide to do will depend on the differences in the data rates that you see.  You could run a factory reset on the router and disable everything but the firewall and DHCP to see what affect, if any, that any of the router functions are having on the throughput.  Anything like traffic monitoring, QOS, etc will slow that throughput, perhaps more than you might be content with.  It might be time to park the linksys and buy another router with a faster processor and with external antenna. 

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

JMAC2
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@Datalink what would u recommend for a new router & thanks for the advice

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

Datalink
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@JMAC2, thats a loaded question these days.  It depends on whether your satisfied with the linksys router for wifi purposes, or if you're looking to replace the linksys for a typical consumer all in one router.  

My personal opinion these days is to consider something like a PfSense, Opensense type of router that you can build yourself and load with that software.  Using that approach, you can use a processor that operates at something higher than 2 Ghz which will give you enough horsepower to run comfortably at 900+ Mb/s and run packet scans and others without suffering a huge throughput drop.  I think security should be a primary concern, which includes IP address checking, blacklist/whitelist checks, packet scans and others, and that can take some computing power to accomplish.  If you're satisfied with the wifi performance of the linksys router, and that also brings the wifi devices into the discussion, then this might be worth considering.  

There is also something like a MikroTik or already built PfSense router to consider.  I've never used either but, apparently the MikroTik has a bit of a learning curve to it.  That is probably the same to some degree for others such as PfSense, OpenSense, Sophos etc.

On the consumer router side, if you're looking for an all in one, wifi router, I don't think there is a router on the market that can keep up with 900+ Mb/s and provide a moderate to high level of security at the same time.  If you're going to go down this road, look for a router that has at least a 1.4 or 1.7 Ghz processor or greater if and when they become available.  The fastest that I've seen so far is a 1.7 Ghz processor.  There may be faster processors in routers now, but I haven't been looking around recently.  It seems that the emphasis these days is on wifi performance including the newer Multi-User MIMO routers which can broadcast to a group of 4 devices at the same time, with single responses back to the router.  The end result is a greater download capability, but, the kicker is that the end devices also have to be capable of MU-MIMO and I suspect that its going to take a few years to get to a point where that is typical of all devices.  So, the marketing is aimed at wifi go fast claims and very very little is said about data rates + security.  So, that is something to watch for. 

In terms of the consumer routers, my preference is Asus, mainly due to the firmware updates and availability of Merlin's AsusWRT which I haven't tried yet.  One of these days.....  I run an Asus RT-AC68U which is underpowered now for gigabit rates although I've seen well over 900 Mb/s thru that router.  Its a great router, has been rock solid since day one and I would absolutely recommend one for anyone running on a lower ISP data rate.  There is an update to that router, the RT-AC1900P which has a 1.4 Ghz processor versus the 800 Mhz processor in the 68U.  IPV4 performance thru the 68U is acceptable, IPV6 takes a beating when the AI Protection is enabled for packet scans.  That gets back to the security aspect.  A faster processor would probably help, I'm not sure at this point how much the IPV6 performance would improve.  

If you look at all of the consumer routers in the market and do any digging you will see that all manufacturers have issues with router operation or security.  Asus is under a 20 year order for inspections to ensure that its firmware provides the end users with a secure product.  Netgear filters IPV6 ICMP which is required to run IPV6, so, I wouldn't consider a Netgear router.  Other manufactures don't provide timely firmware updates.  So, part of the search for a new router should be to consider if third party firmware is also available such as DD-WRT, Merlins AsusWRT, Xwrt-vortex (AsusWRT for the Netgear R7000 and others).  That allows you to get around issues like Netgears IPV6 filtering and issues that you might come across with other routers.  

So, as I said at the beginning, its a loaded question.  Consider what the goal is, replace the Linksys entirely, or use it in conjunction with a much faster wired router.  Whats the priority, wired or wifi, or are they both equal and how much does security factor into the decision?  Keep an open mind and look at typical consumer and not so typical routers.  Consider Ubiquity Edgerouters as well.  I'm sure that there are members on the forum that run ubiqutiy equipment, both Edgerouters and wifi access points.  The Edgerouters will also have a learning curve to climb, so, time and patience will be required.  

Hope this doesn't muddy the water too much.

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

JMAC2
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@Datalink u r correct, there is a difference of approx 100Mbps

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

Datalink
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The modem was running in Bridge mode,correct ?  If not, with the modem in Gateway mode and the router running in full router mode, you would have a double NAT situation running, which could cause slower data rates thru the router.

 

With the modem in Bridge mode and the router in full router mode, that gives you an idea of what the maximum throughput is for the router.  The nex question is what to purchase as a replacement?

 

What internet plan are you on?

 

Edit:  Just to point out, you can run two routers off of the modem when the modem is in Bridge mode.  In that configuration each will receive an IPV4 and IPV6 address of their own.  For the time being, the modem will supply two IPV4 addresses.  There is no limit on the IPV6 addresses apparently.  So, if you had some purpose to run a second slower network in addition a faster network with the new router, you could do that.  The only caveat to that is the security problems that arise with older routers.  You would have to ensure that the router is kept up to date, at least to the point in time where the manufacturer stops providing updates, after which, it would be time to retire the router or possibly load DD-WRT if that firmware supports your router.

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

User9425
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Got .24 firmware yesterday and my area is alread docsis 3.1 Didn't notice any speed increases, my max download is still roughly 850 mbs and upload roughly 54 mbs.

This is in Pickering

Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

rjmaxim
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@User9425 wrote:

Got .24 firmware yesterday and my area is alread docsis 3.1 Didn't notice any speed increases, my max download is still roughly 850 mbs and upload roughly 54 mbs.

This is in Pickering


Wow....I would be ecstatic with those speeds. My area in Scarborough (Lawrence/Meadovale) is 3.1 enabled and I also received the .24 yesterday but in my case it did not make any difference. I received a message saying that my Node was rebuild (although don't know what that means)....but speeds measured using various sources are still far below my 1Gbps Plan.  

Indeed ALL 4 ports on the CODA are active when in bridge mode. Test results now at noon in Bridge mode, port 1 Down: 311 Up:32, Lat:8 Jit: 1 In Native mode using Port 3 connected to Win Laptop. Down: 253 Up: 23 Lat: 9 Jit: 12 (Looks like port 1 is getting priority and faster)

My signal strength on various channels are not optimum, although the Intek strung a new cable to the house.  Appreciate any suggestions:

 

Downstream Overview

Port ID

Frequency (MHz)

Modulation

Signal strength (dBmV)

Channel ID

Signal noise ratio (dB)

1

591000000

256QAM

0.800

7

36.610

2

567000000

256QAM

-0.600

3

36.387

3

573000000

256QAM

0.000

4

36.610

4

579000000

256QAM

-0.500

5

36.610

5

585000000

256QAM

-0.100

6

36.387

6

561000000

256QAM

-2.000

2

36.387

7

597000000

256QAM

1.800

8

37.356

8

603000000

256QAM

1.500

9

37.356

9

609000000

256QAM

1.000

10

36.610

10

615000000

256QAM

2.300

11

36.610

11

621000000

256QAM

3.000

12

37.356

12

633000000

256QAM

2.900

13

36.387

13

639000000

256QAM

3.700

14

37.356

14

645000000

256QAM

3.500

15

37.356

15

651000000

256QAM

3.700

16

37.356

16

657000000

256QAM

3.200

17

36.610

17

663000000

256QAM

2.900

18

36.610

18

669000000

256QAM

2.800

19

36.610

19

675000000

256QAM

2.800

20

36.610

20

681000000

256QAM

2.300

21

36.610

21

687000000

256QAM

1.500

22

36.610

22

693000000

256QAM

0.600

23

36.387

23

699000000

256QAM

0.800

24

36.610

24

705000000

256QAM

0.000

25

36.387

25

711000000

256QAM

-1.900

26

35.780

26

717000000

256QAM

-2.200

27

35.595

27

723000000

256QAM

-1.800

28

35.595

28

825000000

256QAM

-6.800

29

33.957

29

831000000

256QAM

-6.800

30

33.834

30

837000000

256QAM

-6.300

31

34.484

31

843000000

256QAM

-6.600

32

34.346

32

555000000

256QAM

-2.000

1

35.780

OFDM Downstream Overview

Receiver

FFT type

Subcarr 0 Frequency(MHz)

PLC locked

NCP locked

MDC1 locked

PLC power(dBmv)

0

4K

275600000

YES

YES

YES

0.700001

1

NA

NA

NO

NO

NO

NA

Upstream Overview

Port ID

Frequency (MHz)

Modulation

Signal strength (dBmV)

Channel ID

Bandwidth

1

38596000

ATDMA - 64QAM

36.250

3

3200000

2

30596000

ATDMA - 64QAM

33.250

1

6400000

3

23700000

ATDMA - 64QAM

32.750

2

6400000

OFDM/OFDMA Overview

 

Channel Index

State

lin Digital Att

Digital Att

BW (sc's*fft)

Report Power

Report Power1_6

FFT Size

0

DISABLED

0.5000

0.0000

0.0000

-inf

-1.0000

4K

1

DISABLED

0.5000

0.0000

0.0000

-inf

-1.0000

4K

 

DOCSIS event logs:

No.

Time

Type

Priority

Event

1

01/01/1970 00:01:05

82000200

critical

No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:x:xx:;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:x:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

2

02/16/2017 22:51:28

90000000

warning

MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:x:xxCMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:x:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

3

02/17/2017 05:35:49

84000500

critical

SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:x:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:x:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;