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Rogers Gigabit - Coda 4582U - SIP Phone

Fairly certain I am experiencing UDP packet loss. I work from home and use a sip phone quite a bit to connect with customers and colleagues and I experience packet loss quite a bit. Every few mins my sip phone will show connection quality as medium or low and I would have the audio cutting in and out for a few seconds at a time. I am wired directly to the modem via ethernet.

 

I have bell internet as backup and have no issues on it. You can find a screenshot of my DOCSIS WAN page here, nothing seems out of the ordinary: Dociss.png

 

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Re: Rogers Gigabit - Coda 4582U - SIP Phone

Hello, @nmpanamdanam.

 

Welcome to the Rogers Community Forums! 🙂

 

Thank you for posting your concern in the Community. I appreciate you posting the RF signal table; the signal levels don't indicate any issues.

 

Have you tried disabling SIP/ALG switch in the modem? It can be accessed on the Basic/Gateway Function tab. 

 

Besides your SIP Phone do you notice any performance issue with other Internet activities? 

 

@Datalink may be able to provide more insights into this topic. 

 

Cheers,

RogersMoin

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I was going to suggest the same, disable the SIP/ALG which is located in the BASIC .... GATEWAY FUNCTION tab, and then reboot the modem using the ADMIN .... DEVICE RESET .... Reboot function.  I'm assuming that you have a black Hitron modem or the white Hitron CODA-4582 modem and that the phone is ethernet connected to the modem.  Does the phone connect to the cable system instead of the modem? 

 

Of course, if the SIP/ALG is already disabled in the modem, you could try enabling it and then reboot the modem.  Usually its the other way around, it needs to be disabled so that the VOIP phone uses the protocol as specified by its host server.  Sometimes the modem companies get that right, most often it appears that they don't, which is why the SIP/ALG usually requires disabling in the user's modem. 

 

Do you know if the VOIP phone has any special port forwarding requirements?  It would be worth checking the requirements or setup instructions for the phone to see if there is anything specific that the phone requires from the host modem. 

 

Your signal levels for the DOCSIS 3.0 downstream are ok, the DOCSIS 3.1 is anyone's guess as all of the parameters to judge its condition aren't presented, and the upstream DOCSIS 3.0 levels are higher than they normally are for this modem. Still well within spec, but higher than their normal 30 to 32 dBmV range.  

 

Do you have any other services with Rogers and would you happen to know if there is a powered amplifier installed on the incoming cable from the street?  If you have internet service and several nextbox 3's for example, you could have a passive splitter or a powered amp.  If its a powered amp, then the amp requires a passive VOIP port on it which can be used by the phone or by the internet modem.  So, that might be worth checking as well.

 

Did the phone work properly until now?  Just wondering if this is a recent occurrence? 

 

 



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Re: Rogers Gigabit - Coda 4582U - SIP Phone

Sip/alg is off. That was the first thing I did. The issue started 2 weeks after my install when the Downstream had a signal strength of -21 and above. I called in to Rogers, and explained the issue and they had a tech come out the next day and he brought the signals back to or as close to zero. But he also put a 9db connector on the modem saying the upstream should be close to 40 for some reason. I just removed it and the upstream is at 31, 36 and 33 for signal strength. I'll see how things go tomorrow and keep you posted. @Datalink thank you for all the info.

 

Edit: No special port forwarding etc required. No other services with Rogers.

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What are the DOCSIS 3.0 downstream signal levels looking like now, without the attenuator?  I suspect that they're around +10/11 dBmV.  The DOCSIS 3.1 OFDM channel might not be at that same level.  Although the upper range is + 15 dbmV, realistically, modems with signal levels at or outside of +/- 7/8 dBmV will show problems.  That's not a rule, just an observation of many signal level tables. 

 

Note that your modem is running DOCSIS 3.1 for downstream data and DOCSIS 3.0 for upstream data.  There isn't an ISP anywhere that I'm aware of that has fielded DOCSIS 3.1 upstream.  Hopefully that will arrive sometime in the next few weeks.  



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Current DOCSIS attached. I just tried a test call and it looks like now its a lot longer between the audio cut out but still cuts out every once in a while.Dociss.png

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Re: Rogers Gigabit - Coda 4582U - SIP Phone

I'll try switching SIP/ALG back on since after initial install and in the first 2 weeks, I had no issues with it on. WIll report back.

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Re: Rogers Gigabit - Coda 4582U - SIP Phone

@nmpanamdanam your signal levels without the attenuator look ok.  I'd disable the SIP/ALG and reboot the modem at this point.  

 

There is a chance that you have a cable problem which results in fast disconnect/reconnects.  That won't show up in the signal table.  So, if you still see disconnects, I'll get you to run an extended ping test to the CMTS, which the modem connects to.  That will show any packet loss that occurs as a result of the disconnect. 



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Re: Rogers Gigabit - Coda 4582U - SIP Phone

SIP Phone call only can last 30s in Rogers network

 

Hi there,

 

I have setup a PBX and VOIP phone at home for home business, but unfortunately the every outgoing call can only last 31s then cut off, but incoming call is fine. 

I tried with another ISP carrier has no such issue occurred, both incoming and outgoing is fine. note: setting on PBX and VOIP never change.

 

modem: Hitron CODA-4582.

speed: 1G/30M

SIP Trunk Provider: Fibernetic 

PBX: Grandstream UCM6202

SIP PHONE: GrandStream GXP2135 

 

any one knows why? and how to fix it?

changing rogers modem as Bridge mode, could help?

 

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Re: Rogers Gigabit - Coda 4582U - SIP Phone

@jzhu47 have you already disabled the SIP/ALG which is located in the BASIC .... GATEWAY FUNCTION tab?  If not, can you do that and then reboot the modem using the ADMIN .... DEVICE RESET .... Reboot function.

 

If you have your own router, then you could definitely switch the modem into Bridge mode and use your own router.  To do that, log into the modem using 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.100.1 to access the login page.  Those IP addresses will work when the modem is running in its default Gateway mode.   Navigate to the BASIC .... GATEWAY FUNCTION tab and disable the Residential Gateway Function.  Save the setting and the modem will reboot into Bridge mode. 

 

To return to the Gateway mode from Bridge mode, use 192.168.100.1 to access the modem's login page.  That address with work thru your router, so you don't have to rip the network apart to access the modem.  Navigate to the BASIC .... GATEWAY FUNCTION tab and enable the Residential Gateway Function.  Save the setting and the modem will reboot into Gateway mode with its previous settings intact.