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Re: Long Distance Calls Alert

@Pauly wrote:
I get it, I get the alert too, I always thought the alert was normal when you forget to put the 1 infront I guess I was wrong?? not

but what does the op mean by getting the warning on any non-local call? doesn't non local mean long distance? is the op putting just the area code and number? please elabourate

My home phone area code is 905, so if I dial a 416 number I have to dial 1 or I get the warning that it's a long distance call. It's just really annoying thats all, I'm used to the cell phone where I dial any number in Canada without having to dial 1. My home phone also has Canada Wide calling, so I'm not being charged long distances fees to dial 416

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Re: Long Distance Calls Alert

It depends how the switch is set up.  Permissive is possible with or without a recorded announcement.
We could even dial into adjacent area codes without the area code.  This was done by ensuring any local calling area with more than one area code in a split or overlay did not have duplicate NXX CO codes in the 'other' area code for that rate center. This was done in Ottawa.

In Manhattan, NYC, all wireline calls are 11 digits with the redundant 1.  In long distance 011 is overseas DDD, but 01 is operator assisted.  Now, to call ITALY you just enter +39 965 xxxxxx on a cell vs. 011 39 965 xxxxxx, where 011 is the exit code, 39 is the country code, 965 is the routing or area code and xxxxxx is the local #.

The 1 is no longer necessary for routing.  It is a holdover from SxS electromechanical switches which had to select an LD trunk when you went off hook, so the leading 1 did that and allowed the switch to simply repeat it to the LD tandem without the 1.  But 0+ Operator Assisted came in to save time (to display the number on the operator's console), so you had to tell it to do so.  It was also necessary on calling card calls.  1 was actually 113 I think before they standardized (with step).

Long distance in 416 used to be 1 + NNX-XXXX, an eight digit number.  The danger is a dialing error may translate from a local to an LD prefix if the leading 1 is not there.

In the original plan, area codes could only have a 0 or 1 as the middle digit.  If an entire state or province was serviced by one area code, the middle digit was 0.  If a state or province required more than one area code, the middle digit was 1 for all codes serving that province or state.  The 2nd digit told it how to route.

This was DDD -- direct distance dialing.  For common control analog 5XB or TDM DMS, the switch threw the 1 out anyway when it analyzed the entire number, vs. step which processed one digit at a time.  Dialing 212 555 2358 as 221 555 2358 and it would read that as 221-5552.   Local CO prefixes could not have a 0 or 1 as the middle digit, and although it was possible to use CO codes like 220, they often started at 221 and not 220.  Then 911 and 411 and that required pretranslation.

Enter all your numbers on wireless to North American destinations as  +1 NPA NXX XXXX and you'll be fine.
If I called Italy I would dial 011 39 965 xxxxxx, where 011 is the exit code, 39 is the country code, 965 is the routing code within the country

The reason for the 1 was also to prevent a local call from translating to LD when 8 dialing LD dialing was in effect.

When Hamilton was 416 and LD from Toronto, you dialed 1 + NNX XXXX, an eight digit number.

Our DMS switches did not need you to tell us the call was long distance or local, as we would look up the first six in a local call screening area table.  When portability came in, an ACQ had to be done with an LRN.  That's why it's local number portability.

Confused yet?

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Re: Long Distance Calls Alert

This alert is so annoying.  You have people setup in your contacts.  They call you and your phone log does not add the 1 in front but you have the setup in contacts with the 1. 

When you select them from the call history, it does not put the 1 because they called you.

Please Rogers, update this situation.  There is another Canadian phone carrier that does not have this issue.