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Lumia 950

Xanman
I've Been Here Awhile

Hi, 

 

when is the Microsoft Lumia 950 availible for preorder at Rogers? 

 

I am very interested in this phone. 

 

 

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Re: Lumia 950

Mediaman
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Good to have options, but for me, none of those reasons would justify a $500 premium. 

 

I might use the store for some hard-to-find accessories, or to try out new prodcuts, or to purchase a laptopmtablet... but I just dont see getting cell phone there.

Re: Lumia 950

O_M_R
I Plan to Stick Around

@Meowmix I'm with Mediaman. How is all of that put together worth anything like an extra $500? No contract subsidy, and I'll have to seriously consider Android.

Re: Lumia 950

Meowmix
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Hello @O_M_R

I agree as Microsoft won't give u discounts on the device price same as Rogers unless they have a promo but again it's your own choice where to go and get the device. I wanted a Windows phone but Android and Apple took me lll

Re: Lumia 950

Corman
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The Rogers Facebook page states they have no plans to carry the Lumia 950 or Lumia 950 XL. Extremely disappointing. I'll buy a device from Rogers with a high resale value, sign a 2 year contract, and then sell the device on Kijiji. Then I'll buy the Lumia 950 XL from the Microsoft store. 

Re: Lumia 950

O_M_R
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@Corman VERY disappointing, but I feared they wouldn't be doing any more Windows devices.

Re: Lumia 950

Meowmix
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Hello @Corman

Yeah i saw that too. It says " We don't have any plans to carry it at THIS TIME". Which means it can change any time if WE all show we want it. Unless Telus or Bell has the exclusive rights.

Re: Lumia 950

Corman
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Unfortunately I've heard rumours there has been absolutely no discussions with carriers in Canada since August and it may have to do with Microsoft's restructuring. It's possible they may eventually carry the device(s) but it's not looking good for 2015. I hope they're wrong but judging by the lack of devices displayed on Bell, Telus, and Rogers websites it appears it could be true.

Re: Lumia 950

Mediaman
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How accruate is the facebook posting? Is that just an opinion of one person? How can Miscosoft Canada hope yo sell phones if there are no Canadian carriers??

 

Well ...if Rogers in fact never carries the Lumia that is dissapointing...but understandable given the current Windows 10 market share is pretty low. Then again I think its a higher share than Blackberry, which Rogers does carry, so who knows.

 

If Rogers indeed never carries it, sure, then a unlocked Microsoft store purchase may make sense for us Windows fans,  if one is willing to shell out that kind of money. But then I would worry if Rogers would even allow Windows phone on its network - ie what if they abandon Windows altoghter!   I would not buy a Windows phone anywhwre until I was assured it would work on the Rogers network for the duration of my bring-your-own-phone contract.

 

If they do truly abandon Windows, that leaves only Android, Apple...or just swithicng over to Bell.

I hope the Facebook posting is simply noise.

Re: Lumia 950

O_M_R
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@Mediaman Just checked on the Rogers Wireless store to see what they're offering right now. Not a single Windows device (yet they do have one Symbian. SYMBIAN, can you believe it?!).

 

Looks like that's it for Windows Mobile in Canada. If people who've never tried it have to jump through so many hoops, and it is only offered through the Microsoft Store (of which there are only a handful), then no one in Canada will buy it, and the puny ecosystem it has now will continue to decline.

Re: Lumia 950

Mediaman
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@O_M_R  They still have (older) Windows phones on thier site ...

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/os-windows-8

 

Re: Lumia 950

O_M_R
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@Mediaman I simply went to their wireless store, and clicked on Phones and Devices. In the left hand column, where you can choose a product by "OS", they list: a) Android; b) Blackberry; c) iOS; and d) Symbian. And that's it.

 

What sort of message does that send?

Re: Lumia 950

Meowmix
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Hey @O_M_R

 

This is what i see on the Rogers page.

 

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Re: Lumia 950

Mediaman
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Ya, I methoned the web page issues (essentailly ignoring Windows phones) to Rogers Customer Service a while back, but they dont really seem to care.

 

But Microsoft Canada should care , if they want to sell any Windows 10  phones in Canada.

 

I just e-chatted with them. I mentioend that the 950XL seems like a great phone but is doomed to fail in Canada as there are no Canadian carrier stepping forward to confirm they will offer cell service on a Windows 10 platform.

 

I urged them to post some sort of clarification, or convince Rogers to make some sort of statement (and pointed out Rogers does not seem to care either way, as they get plenty of revenue from Android and Apple phones).

 

I asked if they could pass my feedback up the line and the rep said he would.

 

Nothing will happen , but I felt better!

 

So far the 950 is listed on the Microsoft Canada  "Carriers" web page, but is not aligned to any carrier.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/list/categoryID.69821300?Icid=PhoneCat_EN_ModuleB_2_A...

 

Re: Lumia 950

O_M_R
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@Mediaman Hold up. Are you saying they have Windows Phones burried somewhere in their retail website, and the fact that they don't show up is just an "error."

 

That's nuts! I mean, I can select the "Symbian" option no problem (I still can't believe I'm writing this).

 

This approach to Windows 10 Mobile is some serious Keystone Cops theatre, and it looks like Microsoft is the one that's dropping the ball. They have some real innovatove stuff with Windows 10 Mobile. Shame they're not making a real effort to sell it (and not just in Canada; they've only signed up Bell for the 950 ... and ONLY the 950; i.e., no 950XL!).

 

None of this is making me feel better. In fact, I'm pretty depressed, as I'll have to trade in my 920 for some flavour of Android device now.

Re: Lumia 950

geokots
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I've been on the Windows Ecosystem since Windows Mobile and have had a Samsung Focus, Lumia 920, Lumia 830. The 950 is the most exciting Windows phone that I've seen in a while. I've been with Rogers for 15 years but if they don't carry it but another carrier does, then I'm switching.

Re: Lumia 950

O_M_R
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@geokots I'd switch in a heartbeat as well. Problem is, I have very serious doubts about there being somewhere to switch to. Will wait and watch anxiously for the next few weeks, but things look rather dire at the moment.

Re: Lumia 950

Corman
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If another carrier has it, I'll be switching for sure.

Re: Lumia 950

Mediaman
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If other carriers are offering WIndows 10, I am sure Rogers would as well. Money is money. I really think that "no plans at this time" really means "no info to share at this time", as opposed to "no plans to ever offer Windows 10". When I asked a few weeks back about the older Windows 8 phones, they told me it would get updated to Windows 10, post-purchase.
So any speculation is just noise. The fog will soon clear.

Granted, they could have avoided all the fog by simply saying "Windows 10 phones coming shortly" ... or... "Pre-order here" ... or " Yes will will be supporting Windows 10 phones when they become available" . etc etc etc.    So, it should all clear up eventually.

 

Could someone post a link to the Rogers Facebook page that contains the "no plans" post? Just curious to read it. Tx

 

 

Re: Lumia 950

+1 for switching to the company that will carry products that I want. Once a company can't serve my needs, it's time for change.

Re: Lumia 950

Mediaman
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It would appear that it's not just Microsoft Canada dropping the ball,; its Microsoft US as well.

 

Check out this article:

 
Interesting comment .... "AT&T is the only US carrier to voice any support for these phones, and so far it is only committing to the smaller Lumia 950. Not a single carrier has said it will sell the larger XL. Without any shelf space in Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon shops, the 950 and 950 XL hardly have a chance at all. The vast majority of smartphone shoppers in the US buy their phones
 
Would really be ashame if it truly is doomed to fail. 
 
It will be a fascincating Q4 as we watch events unfold.

Re: Lumia 950

Mediaman
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Hmm, the theme re lack of carrier support seems very real. Every article I now read makes that point.
 
Here is another :
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2492659,00.asp 
Hands On With the Lumia 950, 950 XL: Beautiful But Doomed ; Microsoft's new phones are beautiful, but are unlikely to succeed without carrier support.

Worth a read, as well as the comments. The first comment in that article summarizes it well. " Microsoft can't be this dumb and if they are then their mobile division deserves to crash and burn. "