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Lumia 950

Xanman
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Hi, 

 

when is the Microsoft Lumia 950 availible for preorder at Rogers? 

 

I am very interested in this phone. 

 

 

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Re: Lumia 950

Mediaman
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@brandonjbarnand , I am eyeing getting something newer/larger,  but the transition above was on an older entry level Samsung Core LTE...and even at that I really liked it.

 

What free Android are you considering?  If the display size is significantly larger, and other specs similar or better, I would be tempted as well.

 

 

 

 

Re: Lumia 950

IJC
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@brandonjbarnard wrote:

@Mediaman

 

I too am curious how your experience on Android has been. I'm thinking of jumping ship as well. Can get a free Android phone with the competition. Looking for some insight before I possibly take the plunge.

 

Thanks!

 

B


My 920 is getting tired and I was struggling waiting for a new flagship Windows phone and had a free upgrade due so I tried an Android phone. The hardware (LG G4) was mostly fabulous, but I just struggled so much with Android. Connecting to work email was a disaster, log into phone, log into corporate security client on phone, open mail app, just to see if there was outstanding mail. Everytime. No glance screen. No notification integration (too insecure according to coprorate security). The same was true for the Calendar. Drove me nuts, so I sent it back. I use Glance, Customized Lock Screen and Live tiles so much that switching to any other ecosystem is just too painful.

So now, I've still got a free update waiting, but if I can't use it for a 950, then I will be abandoning Rogers on principle, even if no-one else offers it. I'll buy an unlocked phone my Microsoft and find the best BYOD plan I can.

Re: Lumia 950

Mediaman
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Yup, all depends on needs   When I was in my heavy corporate years at work, I only used Blackberry, which was ideal.  But now for personal use only, I have more options and fewer demands. 

 

As for the glance functionality,  I use Floatify, the android equivalent.  It's highly customizable and so far is working quite well. 

 

 

Re: Lumia 950

Glen_B
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Well I just hope I don't have to switch as it would be so much more convenient to stay with Windows.   I did have an opportunity to try out and older Android phone and it was a disaster for me, and I use an Android tab regularly.   Actually I use either an Android tab or Windows tablet every morning to read the paper.  The android is somewhat older but basically whichever one loads the newspaper first is the one I read it from.    I really hope I can stay with Windows but free vs nearly $1K is quite a shocker.  

Re: Lumia 950

brandonjbarnard
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@Mediaman

 

Its nice having a free device to play around on to see if you like how the operating system works and the general feel of the OS.

 

I have been switching carriers and going with a HTC ONE M8. Snapdragon 810 3GB of RAM, 32GB storage with expandable memory with micro Sim, 5 inch display, 2840 mAh battery, and the phone is encased in METAL. lol. It will also get the Marshmallow update when its released.

 

Its very tempting, but its Android and that OS frustrated me for the 3 months I used it previously. So still not sure what to do.

Re: Lumia 950

brandonjbarnard
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@ph8

 

I have not used the 830, but I almost got one. However when I did some research on the phone and looked at the specs its almost exactly like my 920. I watched a video comparing the devices side by side and they operated almost the exact same so I decided to stick with my 920 until the new Windows 10 devices were released...

 

I've been flip flopping between Android and Windows. If you are considering buying something unlocked have you considered a Lumia 930, 1520 or even the Lumia 640XL?

 

B

Re: Lumia 950

brandonjbarnard
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@IJC

 

I'm in the exact same situation. I used to be an Android user but got too annoyed with the OS so switched back to iOS. Now considering going back to it because I can't afford a unlocked phone at this point. Love live tiles because the Android widgets never worked properly for me. Was playing on the Fiancee's S4 last night and was looking at a facebook widget in the google play store, and it was a lot of complaints of the widget never updating properly.... So not much has changed it seems.

 

If I could afford the 950 unlocked I'd buy it as soon as it was released and take it to another carrier too.

Re: Lumia 950

I went from 920 to 830. Mainly because I thought it was a side-grade but something newer and slightly bigger screen (which I wanted). Actually to me it's a slight downgrade, mainly due to the display. The display on the 920 is in my opinion much better. The 830 colour is washed out and there's a lot of backlight that makes the black look like dark grey. Also the viewing angles are not great. The AMOLED screen on the 920 is so much better.

Re: Lumia 950

brandonjbarnard
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@geokots

 

That was another worry of mine when I considered making a side-grade to the 830. In the performance tests I watched, the 920 matched the 830 and in some cases a lot better. I didnt want to waste my upgrade on a phone that performed the same if not a bit worse than my current phone.

 

Do you still use the 830 as your main phone? Are you still going to stay with Windows since ROGERS isn't offering the 950?

 

 

Re: Lumia 950

Yes it's my primary phone. I'm running Windows 10 Mobile Technical Preview and went back to the 920 temporarily when there were some early issues.

 

I will stick with Windows. I don't like how locked down Apple is within their ecosystem. I have no issue with Android but I prefer the Windows experience.

 

I'll get the 950XL. Not sure if I'll stay with Rogers though.

Re: Lumia 950

brandonjbarnard
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@geokots

 

How are you enjoying the Win 10 Tech-preview? I've messed around with it a few months ago, but I found it unusable so used the software recovery to revert back to 8.1. Considered trying it again with the latest build, but I don't want to do it to my daily driver.

 

Not a fan of either myself, but may consider a change to Android.

 

great choice with the 950XL!

 

 

Re: Lumia 950

I like it. The first version and one update after was unuseable. It's been pretty stable since then and current version is almost gold. Performance, UI and features are all pretty solid.

 

Since there have been so many small updates I see changes gradually but I temporarily went back to 8.1 and was suprised how big the difference actually is.

Re: Lumia 950

brandonjbarnard
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@geokots

 

Thanks for letting me know. I may complicate my life a little this weekend and install the current version of the build. I think a big part of my problem is that I'm itching for something new. Maybe Windows 10 preview will convince me to not jump ship.

 

 

Re: Lumia 950

Mediaman
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Unlocked the spare Android today, moved over the SIM card, and now I am back in business. I do like the change (and education).  For $30, it was well worth it.

My old fauitful Win 8.1 in still in the mix, permanently on wi-fi, for light house duty. Will  dedicate the home page for  for remote control for the AVR, Roku, guitar room apps, etc.  Wont do a factory restore as its still good for as emergency backup. so I want all my accounts in tact in case I need to move the SIM card back.

 

Down the road when I do get a new prirmary phone (Win10 950 fire sale or Android) , I'll dedicate my current one to house duty as well .  Much like computers, I am now redeploying the old phones so they do something useful  -  until they break.

Re: Lumia 950

brandonjbarnard
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@Mediaman

 

Im glad you are enjoying your Android experience!

 

Ive been using Android off and on all week with my fiancee's Samsung. Had flashbacks of the annoying experience 4 years ago. I've decided to wait on official announcement from Bell and Telus about wether or not they will offer windows 10 devices. A fools hope I'm sure.

 

last night I installed  Windows 10 preview on my phone after chatting with @geokots must say that i am enjoying it. Still a bit buggy but functions well enough to be a daily driver.

Re: Lumia 950

kw1
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I am wondering why so many people are against buying the phone outright from MIcrosoft. Are you on the super expensive new Rogers plans so getting a new phone is reasonable?

 

I'm running my old 920 plan which is under $55 tax in. The only way to get a new phone subsidized from Rogers or any other carrier for the last year is a mandatory upgrade to the new wireless plans, which are super expensive. I'd be about $50 a month more than I'm paying now for a similar plan! 

 

I can keep my current plan and change to a new phone if I buy the phone outright. Seems like a no-brainer to me. At $50 a month extra for a new plan with subsidized phone that would add up to $600 extra money alone in the first year of that new contract.  Plus I get an unlocked phone with superior usability, updates, and resale vale. 

 

Thoughts...

Re: Lumia 950

ph8
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@kw1 I think the issue is, that all carriers have "trained" us on the notion of subsudized phones.  So it "seems" cheaper than to purchase the phone outright.  Also given the current economic times, an outlay of close to C$800.00 is a bit of a stretch.  In my case I would have to purchase two of the phone as my SO also has a 920 so to move both our phones would be a significant chunk of change.

 

I am hoping that maybe Microsoft might do something like Apple and put an installemnt plan in place that would at least make things a bit easier.

 

Just my 0.05c worth

Re: Lumia 950

Mediaman
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@ph8 - Agree that these phones are pricey. I guess flagships will always have a high price tag. Juat read about a possibl Microsoft "device trade-in" program. But based on experience in the past, these trade-ins are typically pretty low in dollar value. I would sooner keep my old phone as spares, remotes, etc.

 

@kw1 - Correct. Once you throw in a forced rate change plan, you need to factor that into the equation. Its all about the math. Even on the new plans and rates, which start at a reasonable $35/mo for a second device, one has the choice, normally, of buying outright or buying over time via a monthly increase (tab) - both are viable options depending on cash flow - much like buying a car. In the case of the 950, buying outight is the only option for that phone, so it makes the choice easier!  I personally dont have an issue  buying a new phone outright (or even unlocking an old one). I'm not against buying outright. I'm only against spending close to $1000 to "upgrade" my existing personal-use phone. I already have a ton of technology in my pocket on my almost 3 year old phone : email, messaging, browsing, voice activation. GPS, camera, music, video streaming, hot-spot etc., etc. Oh ya, its also a phone! Sure I would pay a little more for a bigger screen and some other nice-to-have goodies. But not a $1000 more. It does make sense for others as it meets their needs, and thats fine too, especailly if its a business related expense! Bottom line, nothing wrong with buying outright vs subsidized - same difference in the end. Perhaps the new 2016 Surface phones will have a different price point - if it is higher still I will laugh it off ; if its lower, I may take a second look at that time.

Re: Lumia 950

brandonjbarnard
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@kw1

 

I don't think a lot of us are against buying the phone outright from Microsoft. I have no problem with that at all. My problem is that I assumed (Foolishly) that I'd be able to get a 950 subsidized through Rogers, but caught unprepared financially at the announcement that they are not carrying the device. I think a lot of people are in that situation and angry. A lot of us have been waiting patiently for an upgrade, and there is none coming.

 

What plan are you on if you don't mind me asking?

Re: Lumia 950

kw1
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@brandonjbarnard wrote:

@kw1

 

I don't think a lot of us are against buying the phone outright from Microsoft. I have no problem with that at all. My problem is that I assumed (Foolishly) that I'd be able to get a 950 subsidized through Rogers, but caught unprepared financially at the announcement that they are not carrying the device. I think a lot of people are in that situation and angry. A lot of us have been waiting patiently for an upgrade, and there is none coming.

 

What plan are you on if you don't mind me asking?


 

@brandonjbarnard

 

Getting a subsidized new phone from Rogers as a historical customer and using your existing plan was the good-ol-days. Not any more, long gone over a year ago. I'm very dissappointed with these changes as well, but they are old news, and separate from the 950 discussion (as it applies to any new phone you want to upgrade/subsidize with Rogers, such as Iphone, Samsung, etc). 

 

My point was that purchasing ANY new subsidized phone through Rogers now ALSO requires you to update to the latest wireless plan options and costs, which are much higher priced than most people's existing plans. There may be a benefit to some people with the new plans, but many others have mentioned that they prefer their existing plan for their use and costs. Essentially with new Rogers policies you can only subsidize a new phone if you also change to their new plans. 

 

I'd have to look up my plan, but it is old (as I haven't upgraded phones/plans often), yet robust. I have 5 gig data included for example. 

 

What are your thoughts? Are you coming from already subscribing to a current plan, unlike me? In that case, not having the 950 with Rogers and complaining totally makes sense.

Re: Lumia 950

brandonjbarnard
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@kw1

 

I know that when you get a subsidy your plan gets upgraded. Done this a few times with Rogers lol. I wish I still had my original plan when I got my first iPhone... $30 for 6GB of data. Oh well. Things are definitely changing in the mobile landscape. I was just foolish and hopeful that I would be able to get the 950 through subsidy. The fact that ROGERS doesn't have these devices disapoints me greatly but doesn't surprise me as they have done nothing to support the devices from the beginning.

 

Anyways I plan on keeping my almost 3 year old Lumia 920 until it dies. I'll do my best to save the money for a new device and buy it from Expansys someday when it comes on sale, or by the rumoured SURFACE device that comes out next spring.