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downloading content from a nextbox pvr

Davezolis
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Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

Meowmix
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Hello Davezolis

No it does not. The HDD is another Hardrive you can just record shows on & watch it ONLY on the boxes. You can not plug them into a computer or anything else & watch them.

There is no way to do so with the new NextBoxes. Here is a quote from one of the links i posted.


"Unfortunately there is no way to transfer your existing shows either to external hard drive or to the new Nextobox 3 PVR as they are encrypted. The only solution I can think of is the copy the shows you want to keep either to DVDs or VHS if you have either DVD-recorder or VCR. I frequently copy my recordings from PVR to DVDs so if anything happens with PVR I won't loose my recordings."

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Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

Meowmix
I'm a Trusted Advisor

Hello Davezolis

No you can not. Someone asked about this & it does'nt work. You can only do it on a HDD extender. The USB is just for  HDD extender.

I haven't heard anyone able to do this as the Software may not allow it.

 

http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/PVR_settop_boxes_remotes/thread-...

 

http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/PVR_settop_boxes_remotes/thread-...

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

Davezolis
I've Been Here Awhile
thank you for your feedback... sorry, does this mean that I CAN download content to an external device then? doesn't have to be a usb... what is an hdd extender? i'm just wondering if there is any way to take a recorded show and download it off of the pvr - so that I can watch it on my PC, etc...

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

Meowmix
I'm a Trusted Advisor
Hello Davezolis

No it does not. The HDD is another Hardrive you can just record shows on & watch it ONLY on the boxes. You can not plug them into a computer or anything else & watch them.

There is no way to do so with the new NextBoxes. Here is a quote from one of the links i posted.


"Unfortunately there is no way to transfer your existing shows either to external hard drive or to the new Nextobox 3 PVR as they are encrypted. The only solution I can think of is the copy the shows you want to keep either to DVDs or VHS if you have either DVD-recorder or VCR. I frequently copy my recordings from PVR to DVDs so if anything happens with PVR I won't loose my recordings."

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

Davezolis
I've Been Here Awhile
ok, that sucks, but makes sense... thank you again!

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

Meowmix
I'm a Trusted Advisor
Hello Davezolis

It does suck but i guess they want to protect the recordings / shows from going out there for free. Hopefully this changes sometime!

You are welcome!

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

While some people have said they have got the drive to be viewable on a pc and see the files.. they are encyrpted, and not able to play back.

(pretty much all companies PVRs are the same way, bell, etc.  Trust me, my boss just tried 🙂 )

Also with the rogers units.. when you plug in a drive as an extender... it actually set it up as a STRIPPED drive.. as in were it takes the internal and the external, and the rogers box views it as ONE large drive.
Any recordings, could be have data split being stored on both and internal and external.

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

Meowmix
I'm a Trusted Advisor
Hello Gdkitty

That is correct. Most PVRS are not able to do this. Most if not all files are encrypted so there is no playback on any machine other then the PVR.

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

Donkscn
I've Been Around
Haven't seen an answer for this but can I download from a pvr using a usb stick and put it into my regular next box digital rogers box to view recorded shows? It looks like there is a USB port on the front of both units.

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

no you can not

 

plugging any device into the usb  port, will try to EXTEND the hard drive (if a pvr) over the size of the hard drive and what was plugged in USB.


Moving to another unit, would cause it to re-try to format the drive..

 

If you want to play back from another box in the house, you can get the whole home PVR setup.

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

How exactly would you go about with this process.(i.e. what do you connect and to what)

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

It looks like the only "consumer friendly" way of doing this is to buy a standard definition DVD Recorder, connecting it to your netbox, and press play on the recording and pressing record on the dvd player at the same time, provided tbe broadcaster has not embedded copy right protection into the recording, it should work.



Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

QueJoder
I Plan to Stick Around

I have a number of TV shows recorded on my Nextbox 3.0, how can

I transfer them to a Western Digital My Book 3TB HHD for keepsake?

The HDD has cable end with USB 3.0 connector + its own electric cable adapter.

If it is possible which are the necesary steps to record those shows on the HDD?

 

Thank you

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

OLDYELLR
I'm a Senior Advisor

You cannot copy shows from your PVR to another HDD because they are encrypted and will only play on the PVR. The best you can do is record them real time to a VCR or DVD recorder.  The old 8300HD is designed to do that and Rogers at one time had an on line video how to do it. The Nextbox 3.0 does not help you do it, but if you can't figure it out, someone else here may be able to help you.


Rogers PayGo. Location: S-W Ontario

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

Rising
I Plan to Stick Around

Along these lines, I have 2 Explorer 8642HD PVR's that I own and have quite a few shows recorded on them. We are possibly transferring to Bell for all our needs. I was wondering if we will still be able to watch our shows off the units even though we would no longer be customers of Rogers.

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

OLDYELLR
I'm a Senior Advisor

The only sure way I know of saving shows on a PVR without a cable account is to copy them to DVD while you're still with Rogers. Copying takes place in real time, so that could be q big project.


Rogers PayGo. Location: S-W Ontario

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

mfait
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@Rising wrote:

Along these lines, I have 2 Explorer 8642HD PVR's that I own and have quite a few shows recorded on them. We are possibly transferring to Bell for all our needs. I was wondering if we will still be able to watch our shows off the units even though we would no longer be customers of Rogers.


Try disconnecting the cable and see if you can still watch the shows.

But if you power cycle, then NO, based on thread were a customer took them to a cottage and they would not boot without a cable connection.

See here:

http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/PVR_settop_boxes_remotes/thread-...

 

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

Can some one explain how to do this exactly? I have nextbox. I switched to bell but I am not cancelling rogers yet as my son appeared in a competition on TV and that show is on the pvr. I don't want to lose that recording. Its just one episode I need to copy. Please help! 

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

There is no way to download from the box itself (say in a digital movie format, etc).  Everything is encoded.

The only thing you could do, is plug the output of your PVR into a recording device of some form:
- DVD writer
- Capture device for the computer
- VHS

You would need to go out of the component (3 cables for video and 2 audio) for more HD, and composite (single video and 2 audio), into the recording device.

Then its pretty much press play on the playback device, and record on the other.


All that being said.. you will need to do this before you cancel rogers, as once its canceled, the box will not boot back up, and be able to work to play the stuff back.

Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

Pauly
Resident Expert
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@Gdkitty wrote:

There is no way to download from the box itself (say in a digital movie format, etc).  Everything is encoded.

The only thing you could do, is plug the output of your PVR into a recording device of some form:
- DVD writer
- Capture device for the computer
- VHS

You would need to go out of the component (3 cables for video and 2 audio) for more HD, and composite (single video and 2 audio), into the recording device.

Then its pretty much press play on the playback device, and record on the other.


All that being said.. you will need to do this before you cancel rogers, as once its canceled, the box will not boot back up, and be able to work to play the stuff back.


What GDkitty said is correct.  If you stop and think about it for a second, the cable companies PVR is designed for people to watch a Television show at a "Later Time" than it was originally aired.  It was Never Intended to be used ti permanently archive your shows for ever or to give you the option to download them or extract them to other devices. They know it cant be done easily that is why when you ask them how, they are not going to give you a straight answer because its not in their best interest to educate you how to do that.

 

If you think about it, the new ignite sytem has a "Cloud PVR"  so there is no storage ie hard drive at your location recording the shows, they are on the cloud which makes it even more challenging for you to extract them and keep them for personal use. 

 

Now don;t get me wrong, just because its challenging does not make it impossible to extract the recordings and archive them permanently, it just means its a little more complex than the average user would know about, so usually more skilled people are able to do it. Yes you would have to invest in some kind of recording equiptment such as a Standard Definition DVD Recorder, or VCR, you can also invest in High Definition video capture devices or video cards and use the software to record the video feed onto a digital file on your computer. 

 

HOW you want to achieve this is totally up to you and determined by how much you are willing to spend on this. but we can give you advice if you need. thanks1



Re: downloading content from a nextbox pvr

OLDYELLR
I'm a Senior Advisor

@Gdkitty wrote:

There is no way to download from the box itself (say in a digital movie format, etc).  Everything is encoded.

The only thing you could do, is plug the output of your PVR into a recording device of some form:
- DVD writer
- Capture device for the computer
- VHS

You would need to go out of the component (3 cables for video and 2 audio) for more HD, and composite (single video and 2 audio), into the recording device.

Then its pretty much press play on the playback device, and record on the other.


All that being said.. you will need to do this before you cancel rogers, as once its canceled, the box will not boot back up, and be able to work to play the stuff back.


There is no obvious way to do this with the Nextbox PVR and I'm not even sure it would work. There was some discussion about this years ago. The SA8300 PVRs do have this function, called "Copy to VCR" and I've used it, but it takes place in real time, so a 1-hour show takes 1 hour and you have to monitor the process.


Rogers PayGo. Location: S-W Ontario
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