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You have to compare costs as well.
The PVRs cost.. 350ish to BUY one.
So it takes you over a years worth of rental fee's to come to the cost of buying the box. Until that year is up, you are actualy saving money. After that year, technicaly you are paying MORE 😞
BUT.. one thing to look at too, is if you BUY it, it has a 1 year warranty.. if it dies outside that, your spending $350 again.
With the rental.. if ANYTHING is wrong with it, you can get it swapped for FREE. With the 8300pvr, over 4 years, i had to swap mine out 5 times (Hard drives died 3 of the 5 times).. so in the end, it paid for itself that way.
As for customer care not doing anything to 'keep' you... while i can understand in some ways... what makes you so special over the rest of us.. that they should bend over backwards and give you more free stuff just to keep you, over the rest of us who have to pay for it?
The promo you had, was the same as bell, other companies do at the begining.. give you some perks for joining them.. but then you fall in regular payment as everyone else.
In the end.. people need to check what their priorities are.. IF you do not watch a huge amount of TV.. and in some rooms dont watch the digital only channels.. drop a box if you need to.. if you dont need HD in a room, get an SD box instead.
really in the end.. its not that bad overall... lets break down on PVR at $24 and not adding extra channels but VIP service at under 70... so lets round it up to $95 a month.
Devide that by 30 days.. thats 3.16 per DAY for 24 hours of watchable TV.
(technicaly, if you had 2 people in the house, device that in half, thats 1.58 a person a day).
Compare that to most other forms of entertainment to go out to (movies etc), you will find it actualy very cheap.
That is not what i read from the OP's original post.
without the OP posting again, we wont know, but that line that you bolded can be taken different ways.
I read that as, they called to change it down to basic... (which nets rogers LESS money), and they dindnt bat an eye at it... in other words they DID do it.... INSTEAD of sending them to customer care, to try and see what they could to, to keep them on (retain them) as a customer paying more money to them for the higher service.
I dont get anything out of it, that they WOULD NOT change the OP's cable plan...
And they ARE complaining about the cost in their original post.
With NO payments for boxes, they were only paying a small amount for their cable service. Now that they box renals were not free for them, the cost of their bill, went up (probably mostly from the now paying for the box rentals). I was trying to extrapolate on the box rental costs and why they are that way.. maybe a little side topic.. but still relivent.
Yes i can see it your way.. but also as mine.
Unless you know the original poster personaly... EITHER explantion could be correct.. you dont 100% know your way is correct.
"I had a period in which the rental of my two HD digitial boxes (one regular, the other PVR) was free. That expired at the end of this month. I noticed my bill jumped to $120/month (an over $40 increase)."
They are complaing here about a $40 increase in their bill.. this $40 would be aprox the cost of the two HD box rentals, which they would not be having to pay for.
My post, was explaining WHY the boxes were so expensive for rental.. maybe a little of a side topic to the problem, but explaining that IF they wanted the digital boxes still, why they are that pricing.
"I called to drop down to basic cable, and they didn't bat an eye. Usually, they fire me off to Customer Care to see if they can retain me. "
Basic cable.. at least to my understanding.. which would be phased out soon.. is the NO digital.. just cable into your house, no digital boxes. This would be ther person going from a... $57+ package to a $38+package, no box rental, etc.
To me what i get from that line, is them saying that rogers didnt make an attempt to keep them at the digital (RETAIN THEM), by giving them some other sort of promo.. they just let them drop it down to basic..
I am just trying to give my opinion on how the situation appears.. which can be either way. Until/IF the original poster posts again, either of our answers is just as valid.
Thats the tough part when signing up for EITHER or ANY company.. check out the promotions 100%... as while they may seem good, there are.. not catches.. but things to be aware of.
IE: the current rogers one... you get the PVR and HD box.. FREE for one year... after the year, you have to start paying the rentals. And thats only if you hand them in a bell box.. so you have to have owned your bell boxes (while MOST do, not everyone does).
Not saying that ccrashh did this 🙂 Just making a general observation.. that the majority of people only look at the big flashy numbers.. and not the fine print.
The number of people that complain about company X's internet/tv prices.. and threaten that they can go to company Y for less. 95% of the time, that less price, is the sign up promotional price yes you would start off and save some money to start.. but by the time you get to the regular billing.. its about the same amount of money 😛 🙂
Best thing in general.. is that everyone keeps an eye on their plans and what changes come up.. most people arent normaly changed to new plan types automaticaly.. they grandfather the old plans. IE when i moved, the guy switching stuff, noticed that i was on the old home phone plan.. and could get the same stuff on the new plan, for $9 less a month 🙂
Really.. in the end.. people have to what's best for them.. whatever they think that may be.. and i hope they enjoy whatever service they get wherever they are 🙂
I agree, make sure to do the research first, to see if there are issues in your area.
But I have to disagree with tha Rogers having more issues, buts that my experience.
I have had cable, home phone, and Internet for 6+ years, wireless for over 4, and the only thing I have ever called for was to call to exchange faulty 8300 pvrs. I think I have called 2 other times, and both of those were total cable outages in the area, and was only down an hour or two.
No matter where you go you will have people swear by them, and people complain. 🙂
But I have to disagree with tha Rogers having more issues, buts that my experience.
I have had cable, home phone, and Internet for 6+ years, wireless for over 4, and the only thing I have ever called for was to call to exchange faulty 8300 pvrs. I think I have called 2 other times, and both of those were total cable outages in the area, and was only down an hour or two.
No matter where you go you will have people swear by them, and people complain. 🙂
None of them do in the end.. very few companies do sadly.. they do what THEY think is right, vs what their paying customer base is asking for... only a few companies out there that actualy do like Blizzard, etc.
I mean really all we could do to protest.. is NOT pay for ANYONES service.. and they would force to do something to get people to pay again.... but then how many of us would go through withdrawl 😛
meowmix has the info right.
Hopefuly you have a good experience at bell.. i had not in the past... while rogers is not perfect, i have had very little problems with them compared to when i had services with bell.
The deals may seem sweet to start.. but by the time all promotions are done and over with and you are back paying full price at bell.. in the end you will find costs very similar for the same stuff... in the end its all expensive.
And i had the same sort of experiences with Bell.. why i switched to rogers. Like we stated above.. you will find it everywhere.. dont expect the compitition to always be better.
Just like politics.. sometimes its the choosing the lesser of all the evils? 🙂
I have NEVER had a problem with rogers employees when i have called.. they are always treated me well. The only issue i have ever run into.. is that they will often not have enough knoledge of the inner workings and things that only more senior people will know... once/if you get ahold of one of those, your golden.
Unfortunately, any call center, you often have a high turn over, so you run into this alot, everywhere.
While i find it unfortunate that the wipe happened to you with the upgrade.. what was it you were wanting rogers to do? It was an accident that it wiped it, im sure. And like anything on a computer, you wipe the hard drive.. the info is gone..they cant really restore it back to the drive.
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