All boxes in the NB family are hybrids and can handle IP streams.
If the rollout was IPTV, there'd be a whole lot more fanfare than just a new guide.
My reading of the technical documentation is that RTN would have worked fine with IPTV....the guide, technically, is a user interface that shouldn't care what's bringing the signal in.
Either way, my guess is that its either a) a new skin on RTN Voyager Vantage (which is why the Modern guide was axed...they're simply reskinning the Classic guide). or its a new evolution of RTN Vantage. The company that made the browser it was based on (ANT Galio) was bought by another middleware company (Espial) so we're seeing their technology incorporated into RTN.
Or it could be something completely different. We'll see next week.
If it actually RUNS as fast as it does on the video, that will be nice.
Seems to have an extra line of stations at a time? (5 vs 4?)
The mini guide is interesting. Allows you to do a more full screen watch, while looking up guide stuff.
The recordings menu looks really interesting.. more netflixish.. would be cool if those boxes showed images eventually 😄
Gdkitty, the Guide already displays 5 channels at a time. Classic view & Modern.
I received an email from Rogers recently announcing this coming soon "Navigatr" and my reaction was "Oh, ok". Then in typical Rogers waste-of-time/waste-of-money fashion, we received an envelope-enclosed 1-page (colour) letter in the mail earlier this week. Probably around the 15th piece of addressed junk Rogers has sent us this year. I'd gladly take a bill reduction in lieu! Now THAT's something I could get excited about!
I wondered what the point of the mailer was - it's hardly exciting news - there's no hardware change involved, there's no ground-breaking new features, we won't have to re-learn how to use our PVRs (a few things may not be as we're used to but the basic functionality will be the same), there's nothing we need to do to prepare ourselves and in fact nothing we can do. It's coming, and it'll be here when it gets here. So, the only(singluar) conclusion I came up with was that someone at Rogers thinks that spending money on a mail-out campaign will prevent a considerable number of customers jumping ship/ditching cable... THIS WEEK. Because after this week, with $0 spent, they'd have known about the change anyway, when they turned on their tvs.
I watched all 3 videos on https://www.rogers.com/web/support/tv/nextbox/9087 and on YouTube found a 4th video, "Learn More About Your New Navigatr Guide!" [link]. My comments are:
So, all in all, "Lipstick on a pig", it seems. A couple of minor improvements but mostly it's just repackaging for the sake of repackaging, not necessarily progress.
Now if they've fixed all of the following long-standing issues, then I would be excited!:
.. just as I would be if they'd announced they were:
You know, stuff like that?.. things that would actually be USEFUL!
Great post! I know there is one more thing you can add to your list. That would be the the ability to add a specific start time and end time when recording a program. I have had enough of adding 5 minutes, 15 minutes etc. I would like to start or end a program at exactly 1 or 2 minutes before the hour and end it at exactly 1 or 2 minutes after the hour. I can still do this on my older 8300 PVR but on our NB3 - forget it!
You are 100% correct in your "Lipstick on a pig" comment. I cannot think of one instance in recent years where Rogers has made a change that has been for the benefit of the customers that are actually using their services!
^ Thanks. And yeah, I was going to add that as one of the things that would "excite" me - as I know it's been suggested here before - but when I realized I'd left it out, the Editing time window on my post had closed. It's a good idea though.. the current "Start" and "Stop" options are just one of many examples of "a programmer must have thought that up" because it's just not convenient to use. You can start a program 3 hours early, but not 1 minute early?? Scrollable options are good if they've logical (which they're not currently) but beyond that, our remotes have a number pad.. let us use the digits!!!
Looking at my post now, I see the 1st screenshot image I'd posted from 'video #4' is not displaying. I'm going to upload it to an image hosting site rather than directly to the forums. Here it is again.. and an additional thought is "Do we really need to be told THREE TIMES on 1 screen what the name of the program is?":
And, while I'm reposting images from that post...
When I posted the 2nd image (also under 'video #4'), I'd asked, "notice anything else that ought to be fixed? (hint: same issue can be seen 3x)". I've now noticed that there were actually TWO ISSUES visibile, not just the one I'd originally caught.. which was an unnecessary/incorrect 's'-ending on "1 Episodes", x3 folders.
I'm going to post below an un-cropped version of the same image, as it shows that there were 6 different Titles recorded -- matching the "Total Recordings (6)" -- leaving me wondering why 3 Titles are showing 1 episode, while the other 3 Titles have no Episode count present. Surely they must each also contain 1 episode!
Perhaps these things have been caught by Rogers beta testing team (haha, as other have wondered, does that even exist?), and unlike past versions, the release of this new Navigatr will be thoroughly tested, bug free, and totally awesome!
Yeah, one can dream....
@kso - It's a theory, but no, it doesn't make sense!
The heading at the top of the screen says: "NAVIGATR Saved" - so the screen shouldn't tell us anything about scheduled recordings. Otherwise that would be confusing!
To be honest I hadn't even noticed, as you evidently had, some of the "NEW" icons pictured had a # before them. I think I can explain that: program folders should show: Title, "# of total episodes in the folder", and at the bottom "# of NEW (unwatched/unstarted) episodes".
But that still doesn't explain why in this video 'Family Feud', 'Steven and Chri...' and 'NHL Hockey: Can...' have no episode count given. And, now that I know there's a NEW count, it also doesn't explain why 'The Price is Right' has "1 NEW", while 'Family Feud' only has "NEW", uncounted.
Either it's because:
a) It's just sloppy mock-ups graphics thrown together by the graphics team making the demo video, or
b) because the Navigatr software really was that buggy when this video was made
Both are troubling: either the graphics team did a poor job or the Navigatr programmers did.
Whichever the case, Rogers was happy to publish the video like that. I just hope they have higher standards when it comes to the launch-version of the software.
In a Rogers Community Blog post this morning, the following information was posted:
When will I see NAVIGATR roll out to my NextBox?