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Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Motorsports_Fan
I Plan to Stick Around

For several months now I have been asking Rogers, SpeedTV, and others what we in Canada will see after August 17th on the channel that has been known as Speed or Speedvision since we started receiving it in 1997, and failed to receive an answer. TV listings for August 17 and later have now made it apparent that we will be receiving an even more watered-down version of what we have been getting in recent years.

 

Fox in the U.S. bought this channel several years ago, and has been intentionally working to kill it off by removing more and more of the motorsports programming from this formerly motorsports oriented channel, replacing it with car collector, game and 'reality' show programming. Now even that will be continuously repeated loops of old shows, with very little or nothing that is new. Their intention has been to start their own general sports channel to compete with ESPN in the U.S., and now to attempt to force the American cable and satellite carriers to replace Speed with the new Fox general sports channel. The U.S. carriers who have not yet signed on for that new channel will continue to receive the pointless and almost entirely non-motorsports Speed channel as a punishment for failing to agree to pay for the new Fox Sports 1 channel.

 

Yet this punishment channel appears to be what we will continue receiving in Canada. Surely there must be something about this that fails to conform to their contracts with Canadian carriers, if not CRTC regulations regarding permitted non-Canadian channels, and could lead to it being removed and hopefully replaced as soon as possible?

 

Note that the Fox-owned Speed channel in Australia has remained very much a motorsports channel.

 

www.foxsports.com.au/motor-sports/whats-on/

 

And most of Europe including Britain has a motorsports channel (not owned by Fox) called Motors TV.

 

www.motorstv.com

 

Please, as soon as possible, replace the Speed channel we presently receive with one of these or another motorsports channel if others exist.

 

 

 

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Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

OLDYELLR
I'm a Senior Advisor

If Rogers has any business savvy, they'll listen when customers complain and demand that Speed (or its replacement by Fox) should not be discontinued. Sadly, if there is enough demand, Rogers will more likely add it as an extra cost option or part of an extra cost package. That will be really . the customers who have received Speed as part of a plan they have been paying for, in spite of all the regular annual price increaes.


Rogers PayGo. Location: S-W Ontario

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Meowmix
I'm a Trusted Advisor

Hello OLDYELLR


Agreed with you on that. I honestly hope Rogers does listen to us and not discontinue it. Its sad that channels are being discontinued because Rogers doesn't want to pony up the money at times.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Meowmix
I'm a Trusted Advisor

Hello Gdkitty


Agreed but Rogers if they care and know about the customers wanting the channel, they should at least pony the money up instead of discontinuing the channel. Fox is another greedy company out there as well

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

driscoll
I've Been Here Awhile

Forget speed! Get Fox sports 1&2

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

driscoll
I've Been Here Awhile

ESPN is the best, but TSN/2 does not carry practice or qualifying

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Motorsports_Fan
I Plan to Stick Around

Re: "The same content and more is available from Fox Sports, but Rogers wants to cheap out and not pay the extra cost."

What do you mean? The Fox Sports 1 and 2 channels aren't allowed to be made available in Canada because they would be direct non-Canadian competition for TSN and Sportsnet. It's the same reason why ESPN and NBC Sports Network are not available in Canada.

 

If Fox has more and better content available to be put on Speed, then why haven't they been doing it, and instead been giving us a channel with the vast majority of its schedule made up of reruns of long ago discontinued reality and game shows that never belonged on a motorsports channel in the first place? This useless channel isn't worth carrying even if Fox was going to pay Rogers to keep carrying it.

 

Speed has already gone away in the US, and I doubt even Fox, if they were being honest, seriously thought the Speed they were sending to Canada was anything a except a temporary situation that the Canadian carriers would put up with any longer than they had to. Fox is just hoping they can dupe someone into continuing to pay them for what little is left of this channel for as long as they can, but it won't work.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Strommer
I've Been Around

Speed is one of my favourite channels. Just like today, my son and I have been watching various racing for over 4 hours. I guess if Rogers drops Speed, I will be forced to drop Rogers and go with a dish that I can get speed on. Hope Rogers is reading these messages and actually cares what their customers want.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

OLDYELLR
I'm a Senior Advisor

@driscoll wrote:
Forget speed! Get Fox sports 1&2

I don't think those are included in most plans that now include Speed. We want what we're already paying for, or a reduction inprice if it's taken away.


Rogers PayGo. Location: S-W Ontario

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Mikedem
I Plan to Stick Around

While its true during the off season Speed channel has been horrible,, worse that horrible actually.. but it always was during non racing season. Once the spring hits there will be lots of content for this channel. Just look at what Fox Sports 1/2 and the online Speed 2 have for content. More than enough to fill Speed with good programming. My though is this is exactly what Fox wants to do but at an increased cost. I hate the way Rogers uses its viewers as hostages or pawns in their fee negotiations. If this channel is available on another provider I will take my combined $400/month I pay Rogers and move. The fact I overpay for TV is one thing that I will put up with to get the programming i want, but to continue to overpay and lose service will be the straw that breaks this camels back.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

reidjr
I Plan to Stick Around

If you look  Fox 1 much of the content Canadian channels own rights to.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

nussey
I'm Here A Lot

The scroll on the bottom of Speed Channel said that Rogers is thinking of canceling the service. As a race fan I would be missing many important races such as the Rolex race and others.

 

Its part of my package and if you take it off the air what will replace it? Will you add the American provider?

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Lurker
I'm a Senior Advisor

There is no American provider.  Fox is only keeping Speed alive in Canada due to their broadcasting license.

 

Fox converted Speed to Fox Sports 1 in the US.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Chris199348
I've Been Around

Lets see if Rogers will notice how big speed is in our lives sign the petition for them to keep it.

SPEED tv on rogers petition

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

C_R
I've Been Around

PLEASE Don't Take away SPEED channel.

 

While watching the 24hrs @ Daytona Race last weekend, I read a message saying that Rogers was dumping SPEED.  I would be very sad to see it go and it would put me one step closer to going with HD Antenna tv and streaming content.

 

I primarily like to watch any type of racing and auto shows.  I'm not really into Nascar RacHub.

 

 

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

theClubHopper
I'm a Reliable Contributor

When the channel first appeared on Canadian televisions in 1995, it was called Speedvision, and Speedvision was just amazing. As a fan of motorsports, I'd watch it for hours on end, 7 days a week - exposing myself to a variety of live or taped motorsport events from around the world, as well as programming documentingt the history of certain motorsports, programming that looked at cars, planes, boats, even lawnmower racing, as well as regular racing or motor-related movies on the weekends on 'The Lost Drive-In'. It was entertaining and educational, and I was thankful for the channel; it was my favourite channel.


Then,in 2001 the channel was bought by FOX and the name changed to Speed Channel. The programming changed, and although it was still quite good, there was more repeats throughout the day, more NASCAR content and less and less variety available throughout the day. Later, the channel was renamed Speed and things really went downhill, with even more NASCAR programming, the addition of pointless 'reality' contest shows that catered to low-IQ (NASCAR) crowd, considerable cutting of live event coverage and special-interest programming (Two Wheel Tuesday, for example).. and the addition of repeat after repeat, same day and throughout the week.

 

Over the last 10 years, I found myself tuning it to Speed perhaps 4 or 5 times a year, instead of 4 or 5 times a day. Over the last 3 years, even less. For a long time now, I've felt cheated that cable tv customers everywhere have been given the 'bait and switch' treatment, and that we've had to pay the same (or more) for a channel that has cheapened its content over the years.

 

I tuned in to the Canadian 'Speed' last weekend to see the beginning of the Daytona 24 Hour race. I saw the message on the bottom of the screen urging Rogers customers to write and ask for the channel to NOT be removed. After 15 minutes of watching the awfulness that was the debut of a new era of American sportscar racing, it confirmed my long-held opinion: as a motor racing fan, you could do away with Speed and it would not be a shame.

 

Cut it, and cut my bill accordingly.

Please and thank you.

 

Signed,

a motor racing fan.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Rogers is taking away our SPEED channel because they don't want to pay for it. I'm not sure if Fox has raised the price or not but regardless Rogers has decided that we do not need it anymore. It is part of their ever expanding growth to give us "the best entertainment experience".
I keep seeing the same response from all the robots that work at Rogers about how they feel so bad and that we can get the programming elsewhere. This as we all know is a load of crap and the form letter response that they keep giving us just shows how much they know about their customers and really about how much they care...which is not at all.
We all know what we will be missing (especially at this time of year with the new Nascar qualifying and all the other racing series about to begin) but unfortunately Rogers does not, and only cares about their bottom line. They have such a monopoly in this market that old school values like customer service do not apply. They just don't give a  . and so they take a dump on us.
I will be switching to Bell and thanks for nothing Rogers.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

reidjr
I Plan to Stick Around

I would find out if Bell has a long term agreement with Fox before moving over if they don't you never know they could drop it soon to.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Gdkitty
Resident Expert
Resident Expert

I would agree with reidjr here.

From everything that most people have found out.. the current speculation.. is the main reason of rogers droping it.. is that since Fox has pretty much remove most of the content that was on there before..  its just not worth carrying it anymore.
Fox removed that content and took it to their other channels (which are not approved by the CRCT up here)..

 

If its more content driven.. that there just isnt anything there worth paying for it anymore... its quite possible that other carriers will drop it as well, as their contracts for the channel expire.



Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Motorsports_Fan
I Plan to Stick Around

Rogers, and everyone else, knew the US Speed channel would soon be disappearing when Fox made the announcement on March 5, 2013. And that came after many months of stories that it was going to happen.

 

March 5, 2013:
www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/2013/03/05/the-official-fox-sports-1-announcement-you-can-exhale-now...

 

March 28, 2012:
www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-28/news-corp-said-to-plan-u-s-sports-network-to-rival-espn.html

 

Why was nothing done in all that time to plan to carry a replacement motorsports channel? The awkward and strange wording now on the Rogers website telling us that "Formula , Nascar and IZOD" (presumably they mean Formula One, Nascar, and IndyCar) are carried on other channels shows Rogers couldn't be bothered to pay attention and understand the situation, then or now. And by the way, I don't remember the last time CBS had any motorsports.

 

What about all the other racing that Canadian viewers want to be able to see, the same way that TV viewers in much of the rest of the world can? Here's just a short list of some of what they can see on television and we can't (or soon won't in the case of the small number of things that remained on Speed) and no one at Rogers knows exists.

 

24 Hours of Le Mans
World Endurance Championship
United SportsCar Championship
Nascar Truck Series
Moto GP
Australian V8 Supercars
DTM
World Rally Championship
World Touring Car Championship
British Touring Car Championship
Blancpain Endurance Series
Blancpain Sprint Series
Continental Tire Series
Pirelli World Challenge Series
Indy Lights
GP2 Series
GP3 Series
European Formula 3
Superbike World Championship
Supersport World Championship
Sidecar World Championship
Isle of Man TT
Motocross World Championship

 

and there is a lot more I could list just from looking at the websites of Motors TV or the Australian version of Speed.
I'm waiting for Rogers to point out the channel that will be carrying those events.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Notice the original subject of this thread. Those of us who have watched Speed since it was "Speed Vision" will remember all the great motorsports events that were covered; including air racing and boat racing. What we have left now is mostly a load of redneck reality shows. After hockey, I bet that auto racing is one of Canada's most favourite sports. Surely Rogers can't be blind to that. When (if?) Speed goes, Rogers had better replace it with another motorsports channel or a lot of folks will be very angry and start looking around for an alternate provider that has Canadians' interests in mind.


Rogers PayGo. Location: S-W Ontario

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

reidjr
I Plan to Stick Around

I think its important to keep in mind that Tsn/Sportsnet do have a fair amount of racing as for the Spped Channel it would shock me if its in Canada at all with in the next 5 months.