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Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Motorsports_Fan
I Plan to Stick Around

For several months now I have been asking Rogers, SpeedTV, and others what we in Canada will see after August 17th on the channel that has been known as Speed or Speedvision since we started receiving it in 1997, and failed to receive an answer. TV listings for August 17 and later have now made it apparent that we will be receiving an even more watered-down version of what we have been getting in recent years.

 

Fox in the U.S. bought this channel several years ago, and has been intentionally working to kill it off by removing more and more of the motorsports programming from this formerly motorsports oriented channel, replacing it with car collector, game and 'reality' show programming. Now even that will be continuously repeated loops of old shows, with very little or nothing that is new. Their intention has been to start their own general sports channel to compete with ESPN in the U.S., and now to attempt to force the American cable and satellite carriers to replace Speed with the new Fox general sports channel. The U.S. carriers who have not yet signed on for that new channel will continue to receive the pointless and almost entirely non-motorsports Speed channel as a punishment for failing to agree to pay for the new Fox Sports 1 channel.

 

Yet this punishment channel appears to be what we will continue receiving in Canada. Surely there must be something about this that fails to conform to their contracts with Canadian carriers, if not CRTC regulations regarding permitted non-Canadian channels, and could lead to it being removed and hopefully replaced as soon as possible?

 

Note that the Fox-owned Speed channel in Australia has remained very much a motorsports channel.

 

www.foxsports.com.au/motor-sports/whats-on/

 

And most of Europe including Britain has a motorsports channel (not owned by Fox) called Motors TV.

 

www.motorstv.com

 

Please, as soon as possible, replace the Speed channel we presently receive with one of these or another motorsports channel if others exist.

 

 

 

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Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Aha! found it. (new i saw it yesterday somewhere).

Dont know HOW someone is directed to it, etc... but..

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/speed-channel?asc_refid=serviceupdate



Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Motorsports_Fan
I Plan to Stick Around

"If the channel provider will come to an agreement that allows us to offer the channel to a more specialized audience at a reasonable rate, we'd be happy to make it available."

 

What are they talking about in that strangely cryptic sentence? Does Fox still think they can bully the Canadian carriers like Rogers into carrying Fox Sports 1, like they did in the US? If that's what's going on, Fox really doesn't understand the regulatory situation in Canada and is clueless if they think there is any chance it will work. And presumably the largely pointless version of Speed they've been giving us was just to comply with the last few months of the existing contract, before it finally disappears for good.

 

Sorry, Fox, but Speed was allowed into Canada as a niche motorsports channel that did not directly compete with any Canadian channel, and you can't just change it into something else that does directly compete against Canadian-owned channels. It's Speed or nothing. Sounds like Fox has chosen nothing, so it's good bye to Speed. And I hope it's hello to some better motorsports channel from someone else before much longer. How long does it take to get a channel newly approved for distribution in Canada?

 

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

I don't pretend to know the details behind it, but it just looks to me like Rogers and Fox can't come to an agreement over the price of Speed. If Rogers realized how many Canadian car enthusiasts actually watch Speed it could be a different story. About all we can do is keep sending the message to Rogers. Find Rogers on Facebook and Twitter and let them know how you feel about this!


Rogers PayGo. Location: S-W Ontario

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Motorsports_Fan
I Plan to Stick Around

Well I certainly agree that there is a demand for this kind of channel in Canada, and I hope Rogers understands that.

But I think it's quite apparent that Fox in the US has long ago given up and lost interest in providing a worthwhile Speed TV channel to anyone in Canada or the US, and what we've been getting for the last few months is just a temporary thing until their existing contracts for it expire.

Rogers would have to be unbelievably apathetic to want to retain it, at least in its present form, even if Fox was willing to continue it (and I doubt they are). I suppose at most they might briefly extend the present set-up until the existing Speed contracts expire with all the other Canadian BDUs, but I'd guess Fox is probably not interested if Rogers has made this announcement of dropping it as of March 1. 

 

Now, if Fox was to come to the realization that getting Fox Sports 1 into Canada is impossible, and giving up on Speed would be just needlessly throwing away all of the Canadian subscribers and their revenue, and return to providing a worthwhile version of Speed (hopefully resembling the one in Australia in terms of programming it would carry), then that would be satisfactory for all involved. But I really don't see that happening. If the channel was for Canada only and not the US, it still would not be allowed to sell commercials. And they have no interest in re-starting Speed in the US.

 

Also, last year there apparently was some kind of corporate split or re-organization involving NewsCorp, meaning that the Speed channel in Australia now has no connection the US TV operation.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

fnbill
I've Been Around

Speed is scrolling across the screen that Rogers is dropping the Speed channel.

I know its a shadow of its former self, but its one of the channels i watch a lot.

If you like it, looks like we better . a bunch!!

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

It sucks that Rogers is dropping speed. The truck series is one of the only one with Canadians in it now we won't be able to follow

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Lurker
I'm a Senior Advisor

Y'all know that this is more on Fox than Rogers, right?

 

Fox switched SPEED in the US to Fox Sports 1.  Because their Canadian license wouldn't allow them to do that in Canada, they had to maintain a Canadian version of what is, essentially, a dead channel.

 

 

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Sounds like we'll have to switch to Bell Satellite TV or some other source in London.  After being a long time customer it sucks.  We already left Rogers years ago for cell service, now the cable will likely be next. 

 

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

desmarai
I've Been Here Awhile

Sounds like Rogers doesn't care from Facebook posts, so already looking into Bell Satellite TV or other as back-up plan.

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Mikedem
I Plan to Stick Around

These are typical Rogers tactics - During the biggest sportscar race of the year they let you know they are dropping the channel. Everyone pumped for the the new unified Sportcar series and oh, by the way you wont be able to see it past March. I know the banner is put up by Fox to let people know and there is some small print on your last Rogers bill this week stating Speed is being dropped. Bell so far is carrying the channel and most of my rogers boxes and PVRs are long in the tooth so its a good time to make the switch and get some new equipment in the process. They make make me a deal to take the $400 a month I pay Rogers for all my services.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Meowmix
I'm a Trusted Advisor

Hello everyone

Like Lurker said, This is Fox doing this, not Rogers. I am all for complaining about Rogers & such but this is Fox causing this. Their licensing in Canada wouldn't let them do that in Canada so they are removing it.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Motorsports_Fan
I Plan to Stick Around

This channel was great when we started getting it in 1997 (as Speedvision) and for its first few years, then Fox bought it and started increasingly ruining it in the years since then -- removing more and more of the racing and replacing it with reality and game shows that should never have been on a motorsports channel. Now it's not a real channel any more since it disappeared in the US.

 

I've been asking Rogers for several years to consider replacing it with a better motorsports channel. If you look at the programming of channels like Motors TV in the UK and Europe, or even the Speed channel in Australia, they are infinitely better than what we've been getting in Canada.

 

I still hope they're going to replace it, but even if they don't, there's no way Rogers or anyone else should be duped into a deal to continue carrying and wasting a channel space on it, even if Fox was paying them to do so.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

racer55
I've Been Around

   So dropping the only channel I really care for? Why not HG TV or OWN , you guys suck I'll be  contacting Bell Immediately.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Motorsports_Fan
I Plan to Stick Around

I really doubt that Bell or anyone else is going to keep carrying what's left of this channel much longer when their present contracts expire. Fox has no interest in providing Canada with a useful channel since shutting down the US version.

I'll wait to hear if Rogers is replacing it with something better like Motors TV before I decide to cancel their service. I'm definitely not going back to Bell (who discontinued my TV service after being a customer of their's for several years, because I wouldn't also sign up for their rip-off internet service) just to watch what little is left of Fox's temporary Canada-only Speed channel for a few months until Bell also drops it.  

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I do not believe this is Fox. This comes down to $ & cents and Rogers is not willing to pay the asking price from Fox, while our monthly bill goes up and Rogers pockets the $. Definitely need to look at other options.

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

deanm
I've Been Around

Unfortunately Speed has become a disappointment after the changes at Fox.  We are motor sports enthusiasts so we watch Speed regularly.  There is still some good programming including the 24 Hrs of Daytona currently on, but if we have to watch the same 2-3 commercials over and over again between programs it may just drive us to stop watching anyway.    We are looking for an alternative from Rogers, but will consider a change if required to get our motor sports fix. 

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

This is Rogers official announcement:

 

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/speed-channel?asc_refid=serviceupdate

 

On Rogers Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/Rogers they'll tell you that Speed is going away, Rogers is not dropping it. However, that's not even a half-truth. The same content and more is available from Fox Sports, but Rogers wants to cheap out and not pay the extra cost. It's not a done deal. Call Rogers and demand Speed's replacement. Write on their Facebook Page.


Rogers PayGo. Location: S-W Ontario

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

blhallett
I've Been Around

In reality, is there anything a customer can do or is this simply a done deal?

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

I'm actual the opposite on the internet thing.  I have seen too many problems with Rogers through friends and my mom for connectivity, and have absolutely no desire to switch my internet to Rogers.  My mom can't connect on a daily basis.  My Bell sympatico internet service works just fine. 

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

If they drop "speed", for which I am paying, I will drop Rogers! $$$$$ at rogers 

Re: Please replace Speed with a motorsports channel

Gdkitty
Resident Expert
Resident Expert

If you read the other threads on this there are others who have been looking into it.
It's as much fox's issue as Rogers.

Likely asking more money for it even thought its only showing 1/3 of the content it used to.

Hopefully if you switch providers they don't do the same in droping the Chanel.