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Wi-Fi without a data plan

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wilkingo
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎09-29-2011

I know that the samsung corby can do wi-fi without a data plan but what other phones does rogers offer that I can use wi-fi?

 

 

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Re: Wi-Fi without a data plan

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javatyger
Posts: 62
Registered: ‎08-04-2010
WIFI is just wifi, you don't need a data plan to use it. If a phone actually blocks you from using it, that phone is total crap. LOL.

All WIFI enabled BlackBerry devices definitely work just fine on WIFI without a data plan, just certain things will not work, like some apps and also BBM.

Hope this helps. :smileyhappy:
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Re: Wi-Fi without a data plan

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Pauly
Posts: 1,956
Registered: ‎10-24-2010
If you want Wi-Fi for surfing then why not invest in a netbook or tablet or something similar?

A Blackberry does connect through wifi, but it also needs to connect to blackberry infastructure at some point to use blackberry specific apps like app-world, BBM, and push mail technology, which requires you a monthly subscription via cellular network. But like others have said, the Oprah browser installed on your BB will work fine for surfinf on wi-fi.

so make suer you know what your needs are first.
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Re: Wi-Fi without a data plan

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bb27
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Registered: ‎09-29-2011

You're wrong. I have a blackberry curve 8900 and when I took out my data plan, my wifi didn't work anymore. I called rogers and they said that I needed to have a data plan to use wifi. 

 

If I was rich, I would cancel my plan with them now but I don't have the money. I would NEVER EVER recommend rogers to anyone EVER.

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Re: Wi-Fi without a data plan

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Pauly
Posts: 1,956
Registered: ‎10-24-2010

im wrong? haven't you read a word what I said? im guessing not.

 

Data Won't work.  Surfing "might" work but its only been reported using a third party browser.   Blackberry is not just a phone, Do you think they spent billions building a blackberry infastructure for no reason?

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Nezgar
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Registered: ‎09-16-2010

I personally owned the 8900, and can say that Wi-Fi does work without a data plan.  Even without a SIM card installed.  You may have experienced that your internet browser doesn't work, because the default options in the browser are to use 'Internet Browser' - it must be configured for 'HotSpot Browser' to work without a connection to the BIS infrastructure.  You will also find it is a lot slower on the 8900 without BIS, as the OS 5 browser is very ineffecient, and it is helped a lot by the precomression done by BIS servers.

 

You will find that e-mail, BBM, and appworld will not work at all without BIS. Some 3rd party apps will fail as well if they don't know how to use alternate connection methods.

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Re: Wi-Fi without a data plan

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Pauly
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Registered: ‎10-24-2010
just a FYI, every phone has a different result, its safe to say "might" work because on Tellis and Bell the story was different too. also it varries model to model too. Its NOT safe to assume it will always work, Your Kilometres May Vary.
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Re: Wi-Fi without a data plan

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BillJ
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Registered: ‎10-15-2010

Pauly's got the best answer of the bunch.  It's hard to say from phone to phone.  Some things you CAN count on are the following:

- BlackBerry phones receive their data once it has passed through RIM's servers and has been compressed before being sent to your phone.  In order to know how to do that, they require that service books be sent to the phone itself.  These are like the instruction manuals for your phone.  These service books can only be sent to your phone if it has a SIM card associated with BIS.  Yes, you might still be able to do some mild surfing, but for the most part you're not going to get much from your BlackBerry without BIS.

- (That's really all I've got.  I thought I had enough to make a couple of points, but apparently not.  My first point was strong enough to stand on its own.)

 

Oh, one more thing.  If you have to do a lot of browsing and you don't have BIS, the Opera Mini browser works without BIS being in place.

 

 

I hope I've been helpful.  :smileyhappy:

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Blitz
Posts: 6
Registered: ‎07-09-2012

I think it's the OS that's the problem. My phone's software has recently been upgraded (after a total wipe) and WiFi doesn't work anymore. Can't get App World to work either, so I can't reload any of my favourite apps. The telephone "help" for the pay-as-you go corner of Rogers isn't good at solving problems - absolutely horrible, in fact. Always different "solutions" and/or "causes". I dare say they even lie. I'm hoping the guy that "upgraded" my phone has a solution. If not then I'm gonna have to clench my fists and march up to that giant green palace of total, unfettered capitalism and brand narcissism, pull back the wizard's curtain and ask. Have you noticed how they lock the default browser's home page to Rogers now, and made the bookmarks folder called Rogers. There are also implanted specific Rogers app sites. Et cetera, et cetera... It's a sad day when somebody joins a forum solely because Rogers pay-as-you-go is causing them trouble. [Kilroy was here]

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cgbfgnfjfjrsyjs
Posts: 2
Registered: ‎09-21-2012
Just wanted to add my 2 cents. I was using a Rogers BB9700 with Chatr prepaid (about $35/mo for unlimited everything!) and the wifi worked perfectly. I recently moved to an area that does not offer Chatr service so I reluctantly went with Rogers pay-as-you-go. I thought it was odd that I could never seem to connect to wifi so I begin hitting some online forums and google. Needless to say, it appears Rogers somehow prohibits my phone from using wifi. My phone detects the wifi connection but will not successfully access a webpage. About 2 minutes before writing this I SWITCHED my Rogers SIM with my old Chatr Sim (who are actually owned by Rogers) and PRESTO instantly connected to the internet! Rogers is BY FAR the worst of all carriers that we have to choose from in Canada. They even charge pay-as-you-go customers for RECEIVING (not just checking) voicemail! I don't mean just a general subscription fee to have voicemail added, I am talking per minute billing for something that you have ZERO control over. Rogers themselves can be calling you and leaving a 5 min message and actually be getting paid to do so! I don't even understand how that is legal or how the CRTC allows it. Insanity!
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