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Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

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Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

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Announced 13-December-2016 by @RogersDave  http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Getting_connected/message-id/379...

Credit to @Hybrid_Noodle

 

Hitron website: http://www.hitron-americas.com/product/coda-4582/

Datasheet: http://www.hitron-americas.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/CODA-4582-Datasheet.pdf

 

60W Power Supply built into unit

Pictures of Hardware Version 1A:

 

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Wireless:

According to the Hitron Datasheet;

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However, in the current software version 2.0.10.13, only the following is available;

1 x 2.4G Primary SSID in 20MHz only or 20/40 MHz

1 x 5G Primary SSID in 20MHz, 40MHz, or 80MHz (no 160MHz for 802.11ac)

1 x Guest SSID (no radio specified, so could be both 2G & 5G, with band-steering enabled)

No current method to enable the remaining 12 SSIDs - 6 per band.

 

5GHz Channels available for manual selection are 36/40/44/48 (5150-5250MHz) and 149/153/157/161 and 165 for 20MHz only (5725-5850MHz).

Channels 52-64 (5250-5350MHz), 100-116 (5470-5600MHz), and 132-144 (5650-5725MHz) are not available for manual selection.  The FCC has not yet approved these channels/frequencies for use (https://fccid.io/2AHKM-CODA4782)

 

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Looks like it may have a better antenna set than the current hitrons? Might have slightly better range.

It looks like a BEAST though, so big.
Guess because the power transformer is inside the unit. (though, that could increase heat?)



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Gdkitty wrote:

Looks like it may have a better antenna set than the current hitrons? Might have slightly better range.

It looks like a BEAST though, so big.
Guess because the power transformer is inside the unit. (though, that could increase heat?)


The power supply in the unit is fairly small. What takes up most of the space is a large 3D antenna array that uses the entire space in the top 3cm of the unit.

 

There is also a need for proper heat dissipation for these components which takes up some space.

 

Dave

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Thanks for the credit @Double_K but the real credit should go out to @RogersDave and the rest of the Rogers team for getting this new modem tested and out to the public.

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Gdkitty wrote:

Looks like it may have a better antenna set than the current hitrons? Might have slightly better range.


This new modem's hardware is definitely in the business-class of Wifi Access Points (WAPs). Most consumer-class WAPs don't have 8x SSID per band support. Even within the business-class of WAPs, you'd be hard-pressed to find a WAP with seperate internal antennas for 2.4GHz and 5GHz - most are dual-band antennas. Having 3 transmit/receive antennas for 2.4GHz and 4 transmit/receive antennas for 5GHz will provide better MIMO throughput for 802.11n & 802.11ac clients.

Looking at the FCC compliance reports, the antenna gains are pretty good (most consumer-class WAPs are 1-2dB Gain on internal antennas, whereas most business-class WAPs are ~5dB gain on internal antennas);

WiFi 2.4GHz Antenna, Dipole Antenna × 3 :
Ant. 1 / Chain 2, Antenna Gain : 3.69dBi
Ant. 2 / Chain 0, Antenna Gain : 3.23dBi
Ant. 3 / Chain 1, Antenna Gain : 4.28dBi
WiFi 5GHz Antenna, Dipole Antenna × 4 :
Ant. 4 / Chain 2, Antenna Gain : 4.51dBi
Ant. 5 / Chain 1, Antenna Gain : 6.10dBi
Ant. 6 / Chain 0, Antenna Gain : 4.94dBi
Ant. 7 / Chain 3, Antenna Gain : 4.83dBi
For Beamforming Directional Gain : 11.14dBi ***
 
***Note: while not in the official datasheet, the FCC testing indicates that this device has beamforming (which it should as a 5GHz Wave2 device).  Having beamforming will increase the range/distance for compatible clients, or increase the connection speed at a given distance.
 
In the maximum average output power, once again this device exceeds most consumer-class WAPs;
IEEE 802.11b Mode: 23.22 dBm
IEEE 802.11g Mode: 24.31 dBm
IEEE 802.11gn HT20 MCS0 Mode: 25.16 dBm
IEEE 802.11gn HT40 MCS0 Mode: 20.87 dBm
For Non-beamforming :
UNII Band 1:
IEEE 802.11a Mode: 22.71 dBm
IEEE 802.11ac VHT20 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 22.76 dBm
IEEE 802.11ac VHT40 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 26.38 dBm
IEEE 802.11ac VHT80 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 20.67 dBm
UNII Band 3:
IEEE 802.11a Mode: 25.27 dBm
IEEE 802.11ac VHT20 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 25.33 dBm
IEEE 802.11ac VHT40 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 26.04 dBm
IEEE 802.11ac VHT80 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 25.66 dBm
UNII Band 1 + Band 3:
IEEE 802.11ac VHT160 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 18.17 dBm / 18.40 dBm
For Beamforming :
UNII Band 1:
IEEE 802.11a Mode: 22.07 dBm
IEEE 802.11ac VHT20 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 22.63 dBm
IEEE 802.11ac VHT40 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 23.61 dBm
IEEE 802.11ac VHT80 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 18.97 dBm
UNII Band 3:
IEEE 802.11a Mode: 24.11 dBm
IEEE 802.11ac VHT20 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 24.45 dBm
IEEE 802.11ac VHT40 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 24.41 dBm
IEEE 802.11ac VHT80 NSS1/MCS0 Mode: 24.21 dBm
UNII Band 1 + Band 3:
IEEE 802.11ac VHT160 NSS1/MCS0 Mode:
15.54 dBm / 22.46 dBm
 
In Canada, for 2.4GHz, max transmit output power is 1W/30dBm, and max E.I.R.P is 4W/36dBm.  As you can see from the above, this device is capable of 25.16dBm/328mW transmit power and when combined with the antenna, can have an E.I.R.P. of 29.44dBm/879mW.  This should be good range as long as the software/firmware enables it.  "Good Neighbour" practice would actually decrease this - since you don't want your 2.4GHz signal affecting your neighbour's WiFi.
For 5GHz, there are 2 ranges that are applicable; UNII 1 (5150-5250MHz, aka Channels 36, 40, 44, 48) and UNII 3 (5725-5850MHz aka Channels 149, 153, 157, 161, 165).  
For UNII 1, Industry Canada limits max transmit output power & max E.I.R.P. to 200mW/23dBm.  As you can see from the FCC testing, this device already exceeds both of those, so the firmware must be configured to restrict that output power (which results in decreased range for the user when using Channels 36-48).
For UNII 3, Industry Canada allows max transmit output power of 1W/30dBm, and max E.I.R.P of 4W/36dBm.  This device is capable of 26.04dBm at VHT40 (40MHz Channel width) in UNII 3.  Combined with the 4-6dBi antennas, you're looking at 30-32dBm of EIRP, which should give good range.  This assumes that the firmware allows the full output power in UNII 3.
 
This is why savvy users will perform a WiFi site survey to find which channels are unused in their planned usage area, and manually configure the WiFi to those channels.  In this particular device, users should have a better 5GHz experience in Channels 149 through 165 if those channels are clear in their usage area.
Manually selecting 20MHz, 40MHz, or 80MHz is entirely dependent on the user's devices and their capabilities, and the WiFi site survey for clear channels.  A clear 20MHz channel will be better than an 80MHz channel that overlaps with other neighbours.  Also, 802.11n devices (which are the predominant devices today) cannot take advantage of an 80MHz channel (802.11ac only), and thus, a better choice is either 20MHz or 40MHz if most of your devices are 802.11n.

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Re: Rogers Hitron CODA-4582 Hardware

Managed to swap out my prior Rocket modem for one of these this morning down by Bloor and Sherbourne. Was rather surprised that they were in store so quick.

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I am curious to see if anyone tried to play online games yet with the new modem?

 

If so how's the ping now vs your old modem.

 

I am only getting the CODA 4582 on December 22th.. I am very excited but can't wait at the same time!

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JohnBeaudin wrote:

I am curious to see if anyone tried to play online games yet with the new modem?

 

If so how's the ping now vs your old modem.

 

I am only getting the CODA 4582 on December 22th.. I am very excited but can't wait at the same time!


I'll let you know tonight, i plan to game shortly on xbox live as well as twitch stream. As for pings, mine have went down drasticly, now im seeing 15ms with 2ms jitter before i was lucky if it was below 100ms

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@Jeffj

 

Nice! that look promising..

 

Update me with your results and give me as much details as you can, I want to hear about it.. been waiting this for quite a long time! 

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